Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-02-18 Autoroute

Mediation Case: 2007-02-18 Autoroute
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Joeldl 23:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Talk:Autoroute


 * Who's involved?
 * joeldl, Captain scarlet


 * What's going on?
 * I feel the page should follow Canadian English usage. I attempted to make the change, and Captain scarlet reverted it. He appears to be blatantly disregarding Wikipedia policies on varieties of English. We're at an impasse.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * I would like somebody from the outside to become involved so the dispute can be resolved.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * No. You can reach me on my talk page.

Compromise offers
This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.



Discussion

 * I do not want to get involved as mediator, but I had a look at the dispute. It does seem like a storm in a tea cup. This is only a disambiguation page. The details can be left to the articles it points do. The language should be as inclusive as possible. Two suggestions:
 * Autoroute is a French word for a divided road with full control of access and no cross traffic. Similar terms are freeway, motorway or expressway.
 * Autoroute is a French word for a divided road with full control of access and no cross traffic.
 * The first is vague about other terms. Note that they are defined in different ways in different places and they are sometimes not used consistently. In Australia the term is freeway and they are supposed to have no cross traffic, yet I know of one that does have cross traffic. The second is minimalist. There is no real need for detail on a disambiguation page. Make it simple and move on to something more important, maybe in the articles it points to. --Bduke 08:50, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I feel the definition "divided road with full control of access and no cross traffic" is inaccurate as it pertains to Quebec. Although in the vast majority of cases that is accurate, there are — occasionally — cases of at-grade crossings. Therefore I think that the translation should be "expressway" (also "freeway" or "motorway") or something similar, since a technical definition will likely never be able to encompass the varying technical definitions in each jurisdiction. Second, CS is opposed to the inclusion of information about Quebec English, which uses the term autoroute to refer to expressways in any country. This information should therefore, in my opinion, not be restricted to the page concerning autoroutes in Quebec, but belongs on the page "Autoroute". Joeldl 14:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * All right, I've accepted Bduke's suggestion of including a definition and equivalents in my latest version. I still maintain that this is the right place to say that in Quebec English autoroute could refer to an expressway in Japan, for instance. Joeldl 15:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)