Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-04 Possible bad faith in use of citations involved in the move of Juozas Lukoševičius to Józef Łukaszewicz

Mediation Case: Possible bad faith in use of citations involved in the move of Juozas Lukoševičius to Józef Łukaszewicz
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Novickas 15:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * Józef Łukaszewicz


 * Who's involved?
 * User:Novickas, User:Piotrus, and User:Halibutt


 * What's going on?
 * User Piotrus redirected the existing stub Juozas Lukoševičius to the Polish version of the name, expanded it, and created a DYK. Several editors from WikiProject Lithuania protested, and in support of his actions, Piotrus cited 64 Google hits on the Polish version. I (Novickas) performed the same Google search, and found that the overwhelming majority of the results were either Wikipedia sites that Piotrus and Halibutt had created and/or edited (Rasos cemetery and List of famous Vilnians, Wikipedia mirror sites of the same, or for other persons with the same name. Screen shots of the google search are posted on Talk:Józef Łukaszewicz.


 * I find it impossible to believe that this error was made in good faith. The merest glance at the google hits shows their provenance; it isn't even necessary to open the links. It also strains credulity to believe they didn't know their own WP contributions would skew the results.


 * Let me state by way of background that the issue of whether a person is considered Polish or Lithuanian is a long-standing issue in both communities, and is based on their long common history and accompanying animosities. My own family history contains many of the same arguments - Novickas or Nowicki? As I mentioned in the talk page, I consider the name written on the man's tombstone to be the last word, so I have no agenda with regard to moving the page back to Lukoševičius.


 * My concern is the probable dishonesty shown by Piotrus and Halibutt.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * Piotrus and Halibutt should issue an apology, and refrain from editing Lithuania-related sites (such as Vilnius and Vilnius University) for some time.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * Discretion is not necessary, but my email is novickas_iota -AT- yahoo.com

Mediator response
You need to assume good faith and participate in the discussion. For now I will close the case; if you find the discussion is going poorly we can reopen it. --Ideogram 08:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Compromise offers
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Discussion

 * Allegations of bad faith are probably more appropriate for an arbitration, not mediation. I move to close this one.TheRingess (talk) 19:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding. Should I wait for more responses before moving to arbitration? Novickas 19:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That's up to you. TheRingess (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)