Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-04 Robert Gray

Mediation Case: 2007-03-04 Robert Gray
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Request Information

 * Request made by: Aboutmovies 05:27, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Where is the issue taking place?
 * ...Robert Gray (sea-captain)


 * Who's involved?
 * ...Lonewolf BC


 * What's going on?
 * ...Above editor continually removes citations from cited information on above article, even after I have requested they stop.


 * ''What would you like to change about that?
 * ...Not remove citations, as WP:CITE requires citations, and WP:BIO peer review has requested better citations with page numbers.


 * Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
 * ...Open is fine, my talk page works.

Mediator response
Is this dispute still active or can I close the case? --Ideogram 03:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC) I have not tried to post anything new on the page, but I would assume he would still try to remove footnotes if he feels they are not needed. So yes, still active. Aboutmovies 18:15, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like he's removing the footnotes or citations, but simply editing them to a certain format. Could this simply be an error of communication? Cowman109 Talk 19:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * He is changing the format (which going by the guidlines at WP:CITE he should not), but he also removes individual cites from sentences if they are all the same cite within a paragraph. Something you used to do when you would write a research paper. However, that is his personal preference and I do not think his preference should overwrite someone else's (please note I am not claiming ownership here, only his editorial actions show any sort of ownership). Additionally, with wikipedia being an encyclopedia that anyone can then subsequently edit, this can create the problem I have pointed out on the article's talk page. This is a real problem, not a potential problem. And if you have not already read the edit summaries that Lonewolf BC has left, you may want to, along with the hidden comments he had left in the article and then someone else removed and left him a message about on his talk page. Aboutmovies 01:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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