Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-07-11 Fatimah/sources supplied

These are the sources that I already supplied, copied from my earlier post on the noticeboard:

Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari's Tarikh is downloadable here. The text is located in the fourth word document. It reads:حدثنا ابن حميد ، قال : حدثنا جرير ، عن مغيرة ، عن زياد بن كليب ، قال : أتى عمر بن الخطاب منزل علي وفيه طلحة والزبير ورجال من المهاجرين ، فقال : والله .لأحرقن عليكم أو لنخرجن إلى البيعة. فخرج عليه الزبير مصلتا بالسيف ، فعثر فسقط السيف من يده ، فوثبوا عليه فأخذوه In english: ''Ibn Hamid told us: Jarir told us, from Mughirah, from Ziad ibn Kulaib: Umar ibn al Khattab came to the house of Ali and in it were Talha and Zubair and men of the Muhajirin. He said: By God I will burn it on you or you come out and swear allegiance. Zubair came out with his sword, he tripped and the sword fell from his hand, so they jumped on him and took him.''

Ibn Abed Rabboh's al-Iqd ul-fareed is read here. It reads:فأما عليّ والعباس والزبير فقعدوا في بيت فاطمة حتى بَعث إليهم أبو بكر عمرَ ابن الخطاب ليُخرِجهم من بيت فاطمة وقال له‏:‏ إِن أبوا فقاتِلْهم ‏.‏فأقبل بقَبس من نار على أن يُضرم عليهم الدار فلقيته فاطمةُ فقالت‏:‏ يا بن الخطاب أجئت لتُحرق دارنا قال‏:‏ نعم أو تدخلوا فيمادخلتْ فيه الأمة In english '' As for Ali, Abbas and Zubair, they stayed in the house of Fatima until Abu Bakr sent Umar to get them out of Fatima's house and told him: if they refuse, fight them. He took a torch to burn the house and Fatima met him and told him: are you here to burn our house? He said: yes, or you enter what the Ummah has entered (i.e swear allegiance).''

Al-Shahrastani's Al-Milal wa al-Nihal is read here. It reads: فقال‏:‏ إن عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة يوم البيعة حتى ألقت الجنين من بطنها وكان يصيح‏:‏ أحرقوا دارها بمن فيها وما كان في الدار غير علي وفاطمة والحسن والحسين In english: And he said: Umar kicked Fatima's stomach on the day of allegiance until she she miscarried and he yelled: Burn her house and whoever is in it except Ali, Fatima, al-Hasan and al-Husayn.

Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani's Lisan al Mizan is read here. It reads on page 268: أن عمر رفس فاطمة حتى أسقطت بمحسن. In English: Umar kicked Fatima until she miscarried Muhsin.

Al-Baladhuri's Genealogies of the Nobles is read here. It reads: أن أبا بكر أرسل إلى عليّ يريد البيعة، فلم يبايع. فجاء عمر، ومعه قبس فتلقته فاطمةُ على الباب، فقالت فاطمة: يا بن الخطاب، أتراك محرّقاً علي بابي؟ قال: نعم، وذلك أقوى فيما جاء به أبوك. In english: ''Abu Bakr sent for Ali demanding allegiance, but he didn't give gim allegiance. Umar came with a torch and was met by Fatima at the door, she told him: Ibn al-Khattab, are you here at my door to burn the house(?)? He said: Yes, this is stronger than what your father has ever done.''

Al-Safadi's al-Wafi bil-Wafiyyat is accessible here. It reads in the sixth volume, page 15: إنّ عمر ضرب بطن فاطمة (عليها السلام) يوم البيعة حتّى ألقت المحسن من بطنها In english: Umar kicked Fatima's stomach on the day of allegiance until she miscarried Muhsin.

Yusuf ibn Abd-al-Barr's al-Isti'ab is downloadable here and Ibn al-Athir's the Complete History is downloadable here. I didn't locate the texts because I already wasted too much time working on the others. Hopefully you wouldn't mind working on these to prove me wrong.

As for Ibn Qutaybah's Al-Imama wa al-Siyasa and al-Mas'udi's Ithbat ul-Wasiyyah, I couldn't find them on the internet so I will to a bookstore check if they're correct, but a Salafi quotes Mas'udi in his book accessible here as having said in his book Ithbat ul-Wasiyya: فهجموا عليه [ علي عليه السلام ] وأحرقوا بابه ، واستخرجوه كرها وضغطوا سيدة النساء بالباب حتى أسقطت محسنا or they attacked him (Ali), burned his door and took him out by force and pressed [Fatima] against the door until she miscarried Muhsin and calls him a Rafidi immediately after quoting him, so I doubt the source is misquoted. En Ne talk 17:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)