Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-07-14 New York State Route 32

Request details
The debate over shields from U.S. Roads has been a major problem since New York State Route 32 was on Featured Aritcle Candidates. There, a couple non-USRD users said the shields, aka the road signs you'd see on any highway, were a violation of WP:MOSFLAG. Members of U.S. Roads disagreed and problems ensued, including god knows how many removals & readds to the NY 32 article. Its been 36 days since the FAC passed, and still has been problems with people reverting each other. And, as a bonus, they defied FAC, and added shields to their standards, meaning if an article goes to FAC without them, they can mass oppose me.

I'm requesting mediation to get this problem solved once and for all. Mitch 32(UP) 10:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

What's going on?
See above Request Details section for this.

What would you like to change about that?
I would like to see the rules brought up at FAC take action over the WikiProject standards. This is ridiculous, and in the long run, its hurting the subproject I work for, WikiProject New York State routes. Mitch 32(UP) 10:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Mediator notes
July 14, 2008 - reviewing case, attempting to move discussion here instead of having it float around FAC, HWY, IRC, et al. Xavexgoem (talk) 21:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Discussion
If I might toss in a few comments here, I have a few things to add. The issue at hand notwithstanding, the "problems" mentioned in this article's FAC have been resolved to a degree. WT:MOSFLAG has achieved consensus that the policy doesn't apply to shields, as was argued at the FAC. Also, there seems to be a consensus forming at WT:ELG that the exit list guide should be extended to surface-route highways, meaning shields in the lists and such will be required as a part of the MOS. As such, this article would be out of MOS compliance without them, regardless of what a past FAC said. As has been mentioned before, consensus can change, and in this case, it has. Imzadi1979 (talk) 22:11, 22 July 2008 (UTC)