Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-08-24 Haplogroup E1b1b (Y-DNA)

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Short term. The article is currently blocked at a revert done by Causteau who believes that this reversion was according to the suggestions of Elonka, who had been called in as an admin, specifically because Causteau understands that Elonka had commanded editors not to make edits until agreed by Causteau. Unfortunately Elonka has stopped replying, except to say that reverts should stop, which Causteau has taken as confirmation that his own revert was OK.

Long term. Similar situations have happened before, and it has frightened away editors, including most often myself. Causteau is not a major editor. In his comments on Elonka's talk page, begging her to come and "intervene" on "this guy" it can be seen that he finds it quite a negative charactertistic of me that I have done so much editing of the article.

Accusations etc. I have accused, for better or worse, Causteau of having a possessive attitude and a wikilawyering attitude. Causteau accuses me of being arrogant and not respectful enough of his options and rules and reversions etc.

What's going on?
I have tried to summarize it with some new headings on the talk page today. Causteau disputes my account, as he has mentioned on my talk page...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)/Archive_2#Innuendo_and_a_disputed_sentence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)/Archive_2#Summary_of_current_roadblockk

Concerning two very particular points which seem to energize Causteau into action, I have also given summaries from my point of view...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)/Archive_2#The_E-M35_type_nomenclature_is_being_opposed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)/Archive_2#M293:_which_part_of_Africa.3F

It should be mentioned that similar talk page roadblocks exist in the archives of the article talk page. Looking at the repitition of aspects of the problem is very important.

Update: after posting the above about a very active debate, I found that Elonka has archived it all and renamed some of the sections, so the links won't work. I have therefore edited them above to make them work again. --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I have also made remarks about this archiving and starting afresh approach here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Haplogroup_E1b1b_(Y-DNA)

--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

What would you like to change about that?
Short term. Right now editing is not possible for me, the main contributor to the article, and there was a lot I would have lied to have done this weekend. Causteau has reverted my last series of edits without any specific comment, but only based on his interpretation of Elonka that edits without his permission must not happen. Elonka has not stepped to disagree with this, although I have suggested it is becoming important on her talk page.

Longer term. It needs to be possible for people to edit this article without having to go through all this.

Mediator notes
Hi, I'm going to jump in and try my hand at mediation. I'm a WP:HGH member and on my good days, I like to think that I know a thing or two about Y-DNA haplogroups. Give me a day or so to read up on everything, and then we'll go from there. – Swid (talk · edits) 16:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)