Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-11-17/john Tran

Where is the dispute?
John Tran and Talk:John Tran

Who is involved?

 * User:JoyDiamond

What is the dispute?
Information to be placed within the Infobox on the page, John Tran (as well as general discord with the other editor). Tran was mayor of Rosemead, California. He was preceded by John Nunez and succeeded by Margaret Clark. The already existing mayor infobox on the page has a place for preceded by and succeeded by in office. A troublesome editor, Joy Diamond has been angry with me since we first encoutered each other in another article Charles Karel Bouley. Angry that I corrected some of her edits, angry that I edited the page at all, angry that I even exist in Wikipedia (she has asked more than one administrator to ban me from editing the Bouley article forever - as well as telling anyone else who edits it that they should not edit). Right now, she is not getting her way at AN/I (a bogus claim she filed against me there at ) and, IMO, is taking out her anger re: *that* situation on me and what I edit. I don't want this to become an edit war and revert what she wrongly changed (the preceeding and succeeding info). I have explained my edits and concerns about the article in detail on the talk page, yet, she continues to revert everything I edit. This all is, IMO, just an extension of her unwillingness to work with me (and possibly other editors0.

What would you like to change about this?
See below.

How do you think we can help?
As far as the Tran article is concerned, I would like someone to step in and explain to her that the size of the town doesn't matter - placing preceded and succeeded in the appropriate text lines is warranted and a good addition of information (especially since the succeeding mayor has her own Wiki article and I included a redirect). I would also like it to be explained to her that if she doesn't want what she writes changed or reverted then she shouldn't place it in Wikipedia. She seems to believe that she is the only one who can effectively edit articles because she either knows the subject of the article (like the Bouley article) or, in the case of John Tran/Margaret Clark/Rosemead, CA, is a local resident. She seems to have a real problem with thinking she has ownership of articles. I have also pointed out to her more than once that original research and COI are big no-no's here. She refuses to listen. When she gets angry at me she reposts what I write on Admins' talk pages - as if it's going to make a difference. Seemingly everywhere she goes in Wikipedia, there is drama and complaining involved. I don't want to fight with her, I just want to edit in peace and work *with* her. I have tried numerous times to do so (especially in the last several days). I don't believe anything with her is going to change unless someone else steps in and in a big way. Subtlety doesn't work with her - she just doesn't *get* Wikipedia, IMO. Thanks for your assistance.

--SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Mediator notes
User conduct dispute. Outside our jurisdiction. Reubzz (talk) 22:29, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Discussion
You know...coming here was against my better judgement. I get tired to coming somewhere I am led to go (I came here through Harmonious Editing Club) so that I could get something more than a curt, dimissive brush-off that basically says, "Hey, stupid! You're in the wrong place and we ain't interested in helping you get to the right place!" This is the kind of stuff that causes people hate Wikipedia so much, IMO. SkagitRiverQueen (talk) 22:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The Mediation Cabal is for content-disputes. If you have a problem with a user, go to the dispute resolution process page and potentially seek a) a third opinion, b) an RfC on a user, or c) seek assistance from other users. Reubzz (talk) 00:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)