Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2010-12-10/Albanian nationalism

Where is the dispute?
Albanian nationalism. The article shows only some aspects of one can call Albanian nationalism. It is only focused on irridentism and protochronism, leaving aside other aspects of nationalism, like birth of a nation, national identity etc. There seems to be no way of reaching a consensus on making any changes on the page.

Who is involved?

 * User:Athenean
 * User:Alexikoua
 * User:Anna Comnena
 * User:ZjarriRrethues
 * User:A Macedonian
 * User:Sulmues

What is the dispute?

 * The Albanian nationalism article, I am asserting, can be considered a WP:FORK of Greater Albania. It has the same information but even more detailed than the original article.
 * The article is almost completely based on "Albanian protochronism". This can be considered WP:OR and WP:SYNTH as there is no source linking the word protochronism with Albanian nationalism. However there are sources linkin ideologies in Communist Albanian with Romanian protochronism: The protochronist ideology developed in Communist Albania was directly borrowed from the original protochronist ideology developed in Communist Romania (based on a sole source), one would have to equate Albanian nationalism with Ideologies of Communist Albania to assert the statement as true. While Protochronims in Communist Albania is worthy of being part of an article, it should, in no way represent Albanian nationalism as a whole. Protochronism was coined in Romania and it applies to some segments of Romanian historical developments.
 * It can also be considered a WP:MIRROR of Albanian national awakening. (Although, information from it are not event mentioned, leading one to believe that only negative aspects of "Albanian nationalism" are valid and worthy of being displayed.)
 * "Albanian nationalism" is explained as a "set of ideas" that are compact and exact, and that are believed by all Albanians; while there is no official document (nor anything similar) that ever defines it such a way. (Example One: Albanian nationalism is a general grouping of nationalist ideas and concepts among ethnic Albanians.) Such a statement should be considered WP:OR as there is no source defining it in such a way. (Example Two: Albanian nationalism attaches great importance to the possibility of Illyrian contribution to Albanian ethnogenesis.) One would argue that it is not Albanian nationalism that attaches such importance, but rather Enver Hoxha's regime.

What would you like to change about this?

 * The name could serve as a disambiguation that would give a quick explanation on what gave birth to Albanian nationalism, and give links to articles like Albanian national awakening, Greater Albania and Albanophobia (maybe also other links that are relevant to Albanian nationalism]].
 * Most of the content that is on the current article should be split and placed in their relevant pages like Albanian national awakening and Greater Albania article.

How do you think we can help?

 * Mediators are invited to briefly look at the article and compare it with Albanian national awakening and Greater Albania.
 * Mediators would get a clearer picture of the problem if they would pay attention to the sources that are placed and how the claims are backed by those sources. For example source number 7 does not exist. Wickers never wrote such a report. There is a report written by International Crisis Group called Pan-Albanianism: How Big a Threat to Balkan Stability (link). But it states that Pan-albaniansim is not a threat contrary to the sentance.
 * Third Opinion was present and got involved in helping sort out the disarrangement. But he was not taken into consideration.

Seeking acceptance
I've been looking over this dispute, and am thinking of mediating it. A note: "Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict (defined as articles which relate to Eastern Europe, broadly interpreted) if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project."
 * This topic is under sanctions from the Digwuren ArbCom case. The remedy reads:

I will warn editors about uncivil behavior, edit warring, etc., but will not block. My warning will be the warning before the block or page protection, and those will be carried out by someone else at their discretion. Any block will generally be 3 days to 1 week, unless: In which case, the block length is anywhere between 1 month and indefinitely. I will not monitor this article if the parties do not accept me as mediator.
 * The offending person has a history of abuse, particularly related to Eastern European articles.
 * The offending person does something really heinous

Finally, I realize that editors obviously have different ideas about what makes the article so problematic (if indeed they see it as problematic at all). I invite anyone to modify the request above to further reflect their views. This will help me, and maybe others, understand the full extent of the dispute.


 * Indications of acceptance
 * Xavexgoem (talk) 03:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Anna Comnena (talk) 19:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)