Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2011-08-09/User talk:3TonCatInTheRoom

Where is the dispute?
At User talk:3TonCatInTheRoom

The list of the users involved. For example:


 * User:3TonCatInTheRoom
 * User:Tenebrae

Acceptance of Mediation
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 * Tenebrae (talk) 15:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

What is the dispute?
User:3TonCatInTheRoom, a new single-purpose account, wants to place dubious "awards" at the page for his hometown, Morgantown, West Virginia. For a week he has been contentious and, I believe deliberately, misstating facts presented at an RfC at that article. (For example, other editors there want to limit awards to no more than 10 years old; he says that means an 11-year-old award is alright.)

I believe he has crossed a line by stating over and over that I am not "neutral", without presenting any evidence of this. In fact, the article is about his hometown, to which I have no connection, so it seems that the very opposite is true.

But a lie stated loudly enough and long enough gets believed. I've asked him to explain how I am not neutral. He cannot, except by saying I disagree with him so I must not be neutral! I've asked him to stop. He refuses and in fact says here, "I am going to continue [to say] you are not neutral. I would be glad to discuss your behavior with an admin."

Since he has agreed to that, I thought we might start informal mediation, with or without an admin per se.


 * Addendum. In the days-long interim since filing this, the situation has deteriorated at Talk:Morgantown, West Virginia. Help is needed, daunting as it might be. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:11, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

What would you like to change about this?
I would like him to retract his untrue claim that I am not neutral.

How do you think we can help?
He seems to listen to other editors who say the same things that I do at the RfC. Perhaps if other editors explain that he cannot make unfounded accusations, he will listen.

c===Mediator notes=== I have read this disussion in detail and am dissapointed. Biting newbies is not on, neither is incivikity or personal attacks. I see discussion has been ongoing on the talk page. Both of you need to get your act together, calm down, and work towards a decent compromise there. Contact me on my talk page if you wish to proceed with mediationdomediation downwn the road, but take note, mediation cannot work without collaboration or compromise, in an environment of camaraderie, open minds and good faith. Closing this one for now. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking....  06:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)