Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 15

Meetup 15 - Wednesday 19 November 2014

 * Time: 7pm
 * Location: 27 North Terrace, Adelaide. (UniSA building located in the red SM building next door to the Riviera Hotel, on the corner of Gray St. Signs will be on the front door. Enter via the side door 10-15m down Gray St - Knock loudly).
 * N.B. After 8pm parking is restricted to resident permit in Gray Street. This is enforced by council inspectors, even at night. Parking spaces are usually available in Hindley Street, or a little further South.
 * Agenda: Further discussion on setting up a semantic media wiki for Port Adelaide
 * Guest speaker: Dr Susan Marsden. President, History Council of SA; member, Professional Historians Association (SA) Inc.

List of current members of the Adelaide Wikipedia Users Group
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 * Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs)
 * Alex Sims (talk)
 * Bahudhara (talk)
 * Bilby (talk)
 * Cowdy001 (talk)
 * Doug butler (talk)
 * Danimations (talk)
 * Pdfpdf (talk)
 * Touring123 (talk)
 * Tullyis (talk)

Pre-meetup discussions
Bahudhara has met with a number of organisations, including Port of Adelaide Branch of the National Trust (PoANT), Port Adelaide Historical Society, Woodville Historical Society, Port Adelaide Residents Environment Protection Group, which have shown varying levels of interest. He also met in September with the president of the Gawler Local History Group, which operates the Gawler Now and Then wiki.

Other PoANT members have raised the project with the Port Adelaide University of the Third Age, where there is some interest.

The October meetup date was changed from Wednesday 22nd to the following evening, to enable SA Maritime Museum director Kevin Jones to attend. The date change was canvassed with AWUG members via email, with no response. Kevin said that the SAMM's efforts are currently being directed towards Adelaidea and the SA History Hub, which have been set up by History SA. (These aren't wikis as such, instead being themed collections of short essays written by experts, with attached blogs for public comment; there is no map interface, such as the Now and Then wikis have.)

At the October meeting of the PoANT committee, a letter to the CEO of the National Trust of SA was tabled and approved, requesting that he negotiate with Darren Peacock over an appropriate licence for the Port Adelaide Now and Then wiki. Darren earlier indicated that a cloned empty shell of the wiki could subsequently be hosted and ready by mid-November, but now says that it will be set by the end of this year.

A tentative launch date for the wiki (providing sufficient content has been generated by then) was first suggested for late January, at the Port Adelaide Library, but this may need to be delayed due to the later wiki setup date.

Resources

 * Port Adelaide Enfield Local History - a new addition to the Council's website, using a GIS-style map interface with historical aerial photography and maps to geolocate the local library's collection of around 2,000 historic photos. The launch of the website was reported in the Portside Messenger as "Story map of Port Adelaide Enfield's colourful past an Australian-first" on 20 August 2014.




 * The proposal for the Port Adelaide semantic wiki involves creating a clone of the community history wikis discussed by Darren Peacock at Meetup 11 in July:


 * Now and Then Mallala


 * Now and Then Gawler


 * Now and Then Willunga


 * N.B. - there is also an Adelaide Hills wiki with pages on the history of Hahndorf and Mount Barker, with a relatively unsophisticated interface compared to the Now and Then wikis.

Attendees

 * Bahudhara, Bilby, Doug butler, Tullyis, Dr Susan Marsden

Apologies

 * Keryn Walshe, Sharon Holmes, Iris Iwanicki

Reports and comments
General discussion about WP. Susan said that she occasionally edits WP, and would like to see more and better uses of secondary sources for articles on SA historical topics, rather than relying on newspaper articles - i.e. that editors should have a better grasp of what other historians have already done, and their published work.

Outcomes
Despite the low attendance it was agreed that AWUG meetings are valuable and that they should continue in 2015. Tullyis took more detailed notes of the meeting, and was later asked to add to the meeting report.