Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/8

Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 8

 * Date: Sunday 31 January 2021
 * Time: midday to 2pm
 * Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa''' Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free.
 * Cost: Free

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference
All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:


 * Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
 * If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
 * If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
 * If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on
The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.

Future Meetups
This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People
Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this:  * 

Attending

 * Einebillion (talk)
 * Giantflightlessbirds
 * Oronsay (talk)
 * David Nind (talk)
 * DrThneed (talk) 22:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Gertrude206 (talk)
 *  Schwede 66 
 * MurielMary

Unable to come

 * Ambrosia10 (talk) - (unable to attend as am travelling that day)
 * Prosperosity (talk) - (brother-in-law's birthday lunch, sorry!)
 * Noracrentiss (talk) 21:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC) (clash with a charity event)

Agenda
1. Introduction to meet up by organisers

2. Wikimedia User Group of Aoteaora New Zealand Update and Discussion (15 minutes)


 * Comms Channels
 * User Group Page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_User_Group_of_Aotearoa_New_Zealand
 * Twitter account https://twitter.com/wikiprojectnz - please message @wikiprojectnz with what you're working on so they can message / retweet.
 * Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/833075710196955
 * Mailing list for newsletter please contact Giantflightlessbirds


 * Wiki-Con Weekends in 2021 and Events


 * Saturday 20 March - Sunday 21 March 2021 Hokitika Wiki-Con weekend
 * Saturday 17 July - Sunday 18 July 2021 Auckland Wiki-Con weekend
 * 29-31 October 2021 WikidataCon 2021 is being held. Still considering what to contribute. Group will discuss in the March meeting
 * 27-28 November 2021Wellington Wiki-Con weekend


 * Anything to update / discuss?

Wikimedia Brand Project : Opinion Survey and Advisory Committee Representative Selection for ESEAP. Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Wikimedia Board of Trustees member sent an invitation to the ESEAP Community to nominate a representative to the ad hoc advisory committee on the Movement Brand Project. The goal is to re-launch the brand discussions with a clear and transparent process in March 2021, and to conclude the conversations with a decision by the end of the fiscal year (July 2021). Polling closes today at 9:00 UTC (16:00 JKT/BKK, 20:00 Sydney). https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScYQb7EPz1vbVc9S62ZZUnaPECcaJhTUVGZKtOAM-GAmaZdOw/viewform?fbclid=IwAR3wQ1Yz-d7Ntv14UGxxYjQa6yhB97FX4UHCr1gkcvcn0QSEvvBvTg240_s

Group discussed the fact that MurialMary and Giantflightlessbirds are listed without being aware of being listed. Preference is to vote from someone from indonesia.

MurialMary updated on news from Wikimedia Foundation. The Affiliates list has been quite quiet recently. Have had some events listed that have not been at the best time for New Zealand. Group keen on going to the Improving user experience and resources for newcomers presentation / discussion. There is one topic about encouraging new editors where the presenters have offered to run at a time for New Zealanders and Australians. Oronsay, Pakoire, Gertrude206, DrThneed, Einebillion, MurialMary and Giantflightlessbirds are all interested.

3. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of'
 * The GLAMWiki newsletter was published and contains the report on the Māori women weavers editathon. I'd encourage others to think about drafting a report for January, perhaps starting with information on Auckland Museum's appointment and then moving on to any other WikiGLAM efforts anyone in the group has been making. Perhaps at the end of the meeting, just to give folk practice in actually putting this type of report? - Ambrosia10 (talk)
 * Also in the newsletter was a link to some really great documentation on workflows for the ingestion of bibliographic data into Wikidata. - Ambrosia10 (talk)

4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

DrThneed has almost finished wikipedia pages for the 150 women associated with the Royal Society. Has 6 to go. Also looked at the list of those that have been done and getting the quality upgraded past stub status. Put in all the Royal Society presidents and matched up their honourifics in Wikidata. Schwede66 sent a spreadsheet out of the Royal Society of all the Fellows. Using Open Refine and working through them. DrThneed successfully requested Royal Society of New Zealand open up the recent awards event photography. They agreed and released under CC BY 3.0. Added to Wikimedia Commons and then Schwede66 improved them. Has also been working with Pakoire Creative NZ grant - looking at this to help her. Segued into trying to improve the Dunedin Fringe Festival and has. Will visit them to see whether they need help.Will be attending a Wikimedia Foundation course on Building Partnerships from next week - 7 to 9am on a weekday.

Schwede66 followed up with Royal Society contact after DrThneed’s success with the photographs. Purpose of the email was to dig out an obituary but also pointed out how useful it is that the photographs are openly licensed and available. Noted it’s not just the prize winners that appear. 95% of the people who attend and appear in these images would meet general notability and at the very least they should be in Wikidata and have Commons categories created. Of those that have been identified almost all of them are in Wikidata already. There was a general discussion by the group on Wikidata and common names and all the various name possibilities that people might be named in a research paper and how this is incredibly valuable.

Discussion on how to manage doing the work of cropping to represent individuals as a bulk upload and getting multiple people editing the dataset. Multiple options on workflow were discussed with acknowledgement of drawbacks and advantages. Still some thinking to do on workflow. A great project for a group to work out the workflow.

Schwede66 has done an article on someone who is alive, very notable and related to another member of the group. Invited others to continue to edit the article.

Oronsay has contributed to the talk page of this person and updated Project New Zealand for that article. Had a rest from NZ female professors earlier but gone back to it and completed another 10 this month. Now completed 26 and list is down with 29 to go. Also focussing on Australian female honours winners. Has been doing a few at a time in order to be reminded how to use Open Refine.

David Nind The NZ Museum’s ID has been set up and has scrapped data from NZMuseums website. This is in a spreadsheet and will be plugging away at working on that in Wikidata. Figured out how to a create a template at the bottom of Wikipedia articles for those winners of the Hutton Medal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Recipients_of_the_Hutton_Medal Is there a criteria for creating a template? MargaretRDonald said that there aren’t a lot of rules and just go for it and argue it if you get into strife. DrThneed avoids this because it can cause multiple results when searching. Schwede66 noted was looking at doing a template for the Hutton medal so thankful that didn’t pursue. Advised David Nind that it can be a convenient workflow for template as it goes into a certain space in the Wikipedian page. You can do a search and replace and this will work.

Gertrude206 has been doing 1Lib 1Ref. Has a book on New Zealand churches that has been a focus. Also visited Karori cemetery and found the grave of Elizabeth Pinfold and wrote an article about her as she received the Belgium Queen Elisabeth medal - one of 33 that are in Wikidata that may need Wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DrThneed/Recipients_of_the_Queen_Elisabeth_Medal

Giantflightlessbirds has been in Hokitika photographing walking tracks and cemeteries and adding these to Wikimedia Commons. Tiny Books Digitisation project and adding these to WikiSource https://www.notion.so/Digitising-a-tiny-book-23ddc147f0fd4e3d8bc147267d7172ee There are also a lot of NZ books in the Internet Archive that need to be added to Wikisource. No active WikiSource community as far as Giantflightlessbirds can tell. Looking at presenting on this at the Hokitika WikiCon. Developed spreadsheet on all the translations of the Luminaries and putting them in Wikidata. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vW2tKn1AGCwEGX7YYgoTU5qdSlaV6-4bZ1999fyLDT4/edit?usp=sharing Has also been improving the author and book and tv series articles. Has also been reviewing the official Wikipedia stats pages: Has really interesting stats on active users from the country and month by month. Show that we are around 400 active users per month. 50 editors with 100 or more edits a month https://stats.wikimedia.org/#/en.wikipedia.org/contributing/active-editors-by-country/normal|map|last-month|(activity-level)~5..99-edits|monthly

MurialMary updating new articles and recent deaths. Added a couple of articles NZ Women of Influence award recipients

MargaretRDonald has been working with CiteQ. CiteQ is being actively developed. Major issues when brought to the attention of the botany community in Australia. It’s a human task to know what part of the taxon name is to be italicised and there is now HTML code to make italicisation occur. E.g. Use Cytospoa in the title. Also CiteQ does not do “Lastname, Firstname”. But what is nice about it is that CiteQ will automatically link the citation to the author in Wikipedia via Wikidata. Also working on Fungi articles in Wikipedia, and also working on fungi scientists to relate the people that have written about certain taxa to the taxa. There is a fungi database of heads of australian herberia of a large number of people. So an enormous amount of work to do to tidy up the relationships between the scientists and the fungi they have identified.

Einebillion has been working on WikiCon organisation and funding applications. Hasn’t got back to the NZ Pioneer Land Surveyors.

5. Review of questions raised during round table


 * General discussion on upcoming NZ WikiCon events. Schwede66 offered to work through a “Did you know” workflow. Possible suggestion of demoing workflow for this at WestCoast Wikicon. Einebillion suggested that everyone think about what they’d like to “show and tell” and also what to learn for the programme for Hokitika. Please add it either to the specific conference page or into the body of the page as a topic proposal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiCon_Aotearoa


 * General discussion on [User:Giantflightlessbirds|Giantflightlessbirds]]’s issue with Open Refine. Solution from DrThneed has been to save data separately and then reinstall. MargaretRDonald closes down and reopens the programme.


 * There is the final session of the Aotearoa New Zealand Editor Support trial happening in the next week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa_New_Zealand_Editor_Support


 * General discussion on SourceMetaData and alternatives to get journal and peer reviewed article information into Wikidata. Suggestions included getting the journal metadata text from websites, breaking into columns in excel, then using Open Refine. For journals with no DOIs using Zotero might be a solution as its faster and has Quick Statement functionality. Discussion on Wikidata label name verses also known as - common name verses full name. Emphasised that all names need to be listed in alias list. Schwede66 noted that common name as label is best as the label as it’s the label that pulls through in Wikipedia info boxes.

6. Demonstration of another tool

In Wikidata. Needs to be added to your commons.js page. If you don’t have the commons.js page create one using your own user name and add the https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:David_Nind/common.js Reuse the script on lines 13 and 14
 * Add either something you can demonstrate or would like demonstrated.
 * Wikidata workflow for journals: Giantflightlessbirds
 * Using Zotero to more easily add bibliographic data (books, thesis, etc) to Wikidata (see Documentation of workflows for the ingestion of bibliographic data into Wikidata) David Nind
 * David Nind demonstrated the VIAF identifier tool. Just a piece of code you add to your commons page. Add missing Identifiers from VIAF.

7. Useful resources and items identified during meetup



Outcomes

 * I (Schwede66) volunteered to write to the Royal Society once more, asking them to change the download settings for the Christchurch and Wellington award photo sets on Google Photos. And what do you know – the settings have since been changed; photos have been downloaded. I'll set something up that we can collaborate on.  Schwede 66  01:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Next meeting and Meetup timetables

 * 28 February 2021, same time, same place