Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/June 2022

Wikimedia New York City invites you to attend its monthly WikiWednesday Salon on Wednesday, June 22, from 7:00 pm - 8:30 PM ET. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.

Details

 * Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2022
 * Time: 7:00 pm - 8:00 pm ET, with time for breakout rooms from 8 - 8:30
 * Location: Online! See "How to connect" below.


 * This month's facilitator is User:Wil540 art.

How to connect via Zoom
How to connect: To join just follow this url: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85212519478

If you have not used Zoom before, you will be prompted to download its launcher program. It works on PC, Mac, and Linux. If necessary, you can also connect through Zoom's iOS or Android app, which you can find on the zoom.us website. As a last resort, you can also dial in by phone, calling (646) 876-9923 and enter the meeting ID (852 1251 9478). Please keep in mind that if you dial in by phone you will be able to listen, but will miss all visuals.

Welcome

 * Zoom etiquette
 * Introductions

Recent/current events
(Feel free to add any recent Wikimedia-related events you'd like to share)
 * Environment of the Bronx Editing Wikipedia for Beginners - June 8, New York Botanical Garden

Upcoming events
(Feel free to add any upcoming Wikimedia-related events you'd like to share)
 * Wiknic in Crotona Park, June 26 3-6pm
 * Wikimania

Share + Discuss
(please add any recent Wikimedia projects/events/activities you'd like to share with the group or open for discussion. These should be 3 minutes max. Please propose a breakout room for longer discussions.)
 * Current monthly collaboration: The Bronx / Environment of the Bronx worklist
 * Several topics regarding wiki governance, current movement strategy discussions, plus some ideas re chapter items. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I have posted a few items which I might wish to discuss, on the talk page of this page. I don't need to necessarily cover all items in depth; if necessary, would just like to read them into the record, so to speak, just to lay some initial foundation of sorts perhaps, to address these items over time, as various other processes may develop at on-wiki, as time goes by. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
 * East Side Access – six months until opening if we still want to try for FAC/TFA within that timeframe. Can move to a breakout room if there's enough interest or lengthier discussion. ComplexRational (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * WikiMerch ideas

Are there any questions about Wikimedia projects you'd like to ask?
(anything at all! We'll do our best to answer if we can)
 * Ask questions here
 * Best Practices: Do we have a list or index to Best Practices? -CmdrDan
 * There are tons of help pages out there -- depends what you're looking for! -Rhododendrites


 * My Best Practice questions: -CmdrDan (Dan, I'm going to reply to some inline here because it's highly unlikely we'l lhave time to get to all of these. Feel free to bring them up in the meeting, too, if you're looking for more, of course. -Rhododendrites)
 * Best practice for uploading pics: Is it BP, do we care, if images, say shot with cell phone (though not sure this matters), are cropped or as shot?
 * All depends what you're using it for. You can crop or not, edit or not. Try to upload the best quality photo you can, but the minimum is only really set by c:COM:SCOPE. -Rhododendrites
 * Best Practice for External Links?
 * For obituaries if the obit is referenced and cited should a link to the obit also be added to External Links?
 * Example: Joel Whitburn (obit)
 * I could say, I might say: Yes. Have both. Be Bold. Don't make the reader work. I mean, minimize the work required of the reader.
 * Typically no, links used in citations shouldn't be in the external links section per WP:ELNO. There are exceptions, like if you cite the official site in an article about a company, you'd probably still want the official link to the company website at the bottom, but it's rare. -Rhododendrites
 * Best Green Practices, aka, minimizing carbon footprint by minimizing CPU cycles:
 * I think redirects increase cpu cycles. Am I wrong?
 * Someone more technically inclined can probably answer more concretely than me, but I cannot imagine a single additional request and the tiny amount of data involved in the redirect itself has much of a cost. On the other hand, it helps people find the topics they're looking for. -Rhododendrites


 * Wikivoyage: Get around sections: Woefully lacking
 * I suspect lots of places have Get Around sections that omit or fail to fully list or document the increasing number of transportation options, viz., bicycles, scooters, ride hail, roller skate, and skateboard, services:


 * https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.#Get_around
 * https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New_York_City#By_bicycle
 * https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/New_York_City#Get_around
 * https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/San_Francisco#Get_around
 * If you have some expertise about Wikivoyage, that would make for a good presentation at some future WikiWeds. I don't think I've come across anyone in the WMNYC community who's active there. -Rhododendrites


 * Model articles?
 * WP:FA and WP:GA would be a good starting point, but also the Assessment tables nearly all WikiProjects have, which sort articles into quality (and sometimes importance). -Rhododendrites
 * In addition to updating the WikiVoyage articles what can and should be done on wikidata?

Larger question: How can I fix the above * problems??


 * Oops, almost forgot:
 * Best Practice for links and other wikitext in Edit Summaries:
 * I have taken to breaking wikitext links in comments, see the comment for this edit
 * Not sure there are any, beyond the caveats listed at Help:Edit_summary. -Rhododendrites

Breakout room proposals
(The last 30 minutes is dedicated to small group discussions. Breakout room topics may arise during the course of other discussions, but feel free to propose one in advance, too!)
 * Add breakout room proposals here
 * discussion of current WMF governance processes, forums, opportunities for movement dialogues. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * WikiMerch ideas

Likely attendees

 * &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 02:34, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Wil540 art (talk) 03:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ComplexRational (talk) 14:52, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Sm8900 (talk) 15:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 20:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * kosboot (talk) 01:50, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 *  Bluerasberry  (talk)  14:21, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * CmdrDan (talk) 18:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC) I will be there. Been out of town and have a backlog of work.