Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/Meetup 26 November 2022

Wellington Meetup 26 November 2022

 * Date: Saturday 26 November 2022
 * Time: 10:00 am to midday
 * Location: He Matapihi Molesworth Library at National Library, corner Molesworth and Aitken Streets, Wellington Come to the main entrance of the National Library on Molesworth Street.
 * Bring a laptop if you have one. There are publicly available computers if you don't have a laptop.

Venue
The group meet at the He Matapihi Molesworth Library within the National Library. This is a Wellington City Council pop up public library. Mask wearing is encouraged. Drinks are permitted in the library.

Future Meetups
This is a monthly event occurring every four weeks, but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

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Attending
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 * Einebillion (talk)
 * is running an edit-a-thon in Greymouth that day, but would be keen to join the meetup to say hello (and perhaps interest people in helping out remotely…) I'll have a Whereby meeting room open: https://whereby.com/rove.wiki
 * Wainuiomartian (talk) 20:02, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Gertrude206 (talk) 18:34, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Noracrentiss (talk)
 * Marshelec (talk)

Unable to come

 * Stitchbird2 (talk) 09:06, 8 October 2022 (UTC) Stitchbird2 - apologies I will be out of town on a work trip!
 * Ambrosia10 (talk) - family commitments
 * Chocmilk03 (talk) 20:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Agenda and Notes from Meeting
1. Introduction to meet up by organisers (if there are any newbies joining us)

2. Confirmation of date of next meeting - Agreed meeting of the 24 December will be skipped. Next meeting will be January.

3. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on
 * Gertrude206 working with a new editor to try and improve the editing style. The first article published needed a significant copy edit but progress is being made. Doing some other tidying.


 * Wainuiomartian working on New Zealand stubs and expanding. Working on Evans Bay and wanted to add a suburb info box. Group discussed and decided to go ahead. Copyright enquiry about 1928 ad in Papers Past. Determined that it was out of copyright in New Zealand due to being unknown creator and published greater than the end of the calendar year + 50 years. Then reviewed the Cornell University Public Domain guide and determined the ad was in the public domain as the work was published abroad before 1978 and published without compliance with US formalities and in the public domain in its source country as of 1 January 1996. So the copyright template to be used are and.


 * Noracrentiss demoed Mix’n’Match to Wainuiomartian discussion on how long to go before a mix-n-match dataset is “completed” rather than finished 100%. Looking at doing an article on a doctor who was the only Indian in Colditz during WWII.


 * Einebillion gave an update on her attendance to WOW2022 and ESEAP 2022. Asked whether recording secret knowledge was discussed. A topic that was discussed was a framework for how to cite oral traditional knowledge. What’s the framework? How to do this? The conference group identified this as a key piece of work for Wikimedia Foundation.


 * Marshelec arrived. Not been doing a lot of Wiki work but has been working in wikisource with a book on sea shells. OCR was a bit difficult. Has also been doing administration work for athletics.

4. Progress on Action Points and future events


 * Please add any projects, outreach efforts and press or promotion efforts you've under taken to the Annual Report! Ambrosia10 has been collating content but there is plenty of space for folk to outline their contributions to projects and outreach efforts! If you've give any presentations, held meetings or training sessions, developed particular projects, had interviews or press coverage of your editing efforts please add them to the report.


 * Don't forget to add your program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page.


 * New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this during #1Lib1Ref. Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10


 * Meeting discussed Wikidata Thesis project and wondered what was going to happen in the future.


 * Photographs on bird pages Discussion on a change of info box photographs in the Kererū page and New Zealand grebe page. New Zealand Grebe photograph change was reverted due to the original photograph better meeting the info box criteria. User doing the changes has uploaded a bank of fantastic photographs but needs more categorisation.


 * Peter Bush photographic archive story featured on nine to noon discussed and the Facebook page group commentary also discussed.


 * Discussion on identifying deficiency in New Zealand wikipedia contents. There’s a template that will help us develop an understanding of deficiencies if we work through it.


 * Discussion on learning progression for new editor - where are the resources? Discussed the difficulty that school librarians have with teachers disregarding the usefulness of Wikipedia. Noted that Wiki Education (Wikimedia Foundation division) has a Learning to Read Wikipedia in the Classroom programme that is being piloted including teaching educators to teach other teachers. There are also teaching resources that have been developed to teach Wikipedia as a fact-checking tool in Australian Capital Territory public schools


 * ESEAP 2022 and WOW2022, Sydney - report back from attendees will be detailed on the meta wiki event page.
 * Visit to Parliamentary Librarians Any update from Pakoire?

5. Good Article / Featured Article Work The next focus article is: Matiu / Somes Island

Progress update?

6. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of
 * Ambrosia10 - just letting folks know that I had a one hour meeting with the BHL cataloguing group to discuss BHL and Wikidata and how to progress getting data in to Wikidata and improve structured data on commons in Wikicommons. 6 of the group had just completed a WikiEDU course in Wikidata and were concentrating their efforts on the two datasets in mix'n'match as well as intending on working on the data ontology for their images in Wikicommons and ensuring a DOI workflow with cross ref can take advantage of the disambiguation that is done by BHL prior to getting DOIs but is then lost when they upload the metadata into CrossRef.  Also BHL is working on round-tripping any Wikidata item which has the BHL creator id on it into the BHL page for the creator! VERY exciting news as it will make life a lot easier for anyone looking for more detailed information on these BHL creators and will help with institutional disambiguation. So a productive meeting was had by all!
 * Ambrosia10 attended a two day Wikidata workshop held by the Natural History Museum in Berlin aimed at getting German collectors active in the German colony in Cameroon in Africa into Wikidata. It's the very beginning steps in an effort to help those in Africa get improved access to content held in the museum and to get more knowledge about what is held and how it was obtained from their country. See this page for more information.
 * Te Papa upload of images - just in case no one is at the meeting from Te Papa, Avocadobabygirl has updated their project page with documentation from their openrefine batch upload of images to Wikicommons!
 * The Internet Archive bot is still not functioning correctly. The "Fix a single page" function is not working. It appears to run, but doesn't actually do anything.There is a ticket for the logged problem here:  This may warrant escalation soon.  There has been comments by a person working on the problem, but it has been down for well over a month now.

7. Wikicon Wellington Discussion - notes retained from previous meeting

Audience Group agreed that the Wikicon in February is for editors that have some experience. Newbies should be encouraged to attend a training session that could be run a week or fortnight prior. This information should be included in the promotional material.

Duration Group agreed that the Wikicon should be over two days and should start later on the Saturday to ensure those that arrive by flights in the morning have time to get to the location.

Presentation ideas Group brainstormed options for the programme.
 * Manager of Otari Wilton’s Bush could be invited to talk about 3 to 5 of their selected rare plants and then take the group into the bush to show them the specimens.
 * DrThneed could be invited to talk about the Thesis project
 * Ambrosia10 could be invited to talk about species boxes / info boxes including template creation and how the templates works with Wikidata.
 * Avocadobabygirl could be invited to talk about Te Papa’s Wikimedia Commons project
 * Beeswaxcandle or Giantflightlessbirds could be invited to deliver a Wikisource tutorial
 * Project lead for Te Papa’s Spencer Digby Ronald D. Woolf project could be invited to present on how a digitisation project works and show what resources are available for the community to use.
 * An editor could be invited to discuss how to get books into Wikidata and how to use Cite-Q
 * How many newish editors will attend? Do we need a general introduction to all Wikimedia Foundation projects? Ambrosia10 has a presentation that was delivered to the Auckland Wikicon last year.

Support for Presenters. Group agreed that the Wikicon funding should include paying for the travel and accommodation of speakers.

Action points:

Next Steps and progress
 * Venue confirmation
 * Registration set up
 * Covid safety
 * Food preferences / allergies
 * Disability accommodation - is the venue wheelchair accessible, options for hard of hearing,


 * Communication and promotion including programme, event listing, Wiki pages, comms channels
 * Catering
 * Transport
 * Accommodation recommendation
 * Speaker confirmation
 * Programme confirmation

Next meeting and Meetup timetables

 * No December meeting as the scheduled date is the day before Christmas.

* Next Meeting is 21 January 2023, same time, same place