Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Procedural close. Disambiguation pages are discussed at WP:AFD, redirects at WP:RFD. (non-admin closure) SD0001 (talk) 16:43, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation)

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Duplicate of existing dismabiguation Giant softshell turtle - now we have two identical disambiguation pages that link to each other... Elmidae (talk · contribs) 23:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Wrong forum. DAB pages go to AfD not Mfd.
 * Fixed by redirection WP:ATD. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:43, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Both of these names are used for multiple taxa, however, I think one of them could be populated as a disambiguation page and the other a redirect to the other. Both would then be searchable. Both terms are, as I said, used for multiple species. Hence disambiguation is justified. Not sure about twice though. Cheers Scott Thomson  ( Faendalimas ) talk 23:57, 5 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirection is certainly functional; but it seems rather stupid to have a redirect with the title "Asian giant softshell turtle (disambiguation)" in addition to the existing redirect Asian giant softshell turtle. I know that the RfD crowd seems not to care about what amount of rubbish clutters up redirect space, so I guess we'll just let 'er sit there... -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:16, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * To be fair, redirects have low quality standards compared to most other pages on WP. Redirect makes it clear that there is typically little reason to delete them unless they do actual harm to the project. Geolodus (talk) 16:34, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. is a primary redirect to Cantor's giant softshell turtle which (if the articles are to be believed) is the only species for which that is a common name.  The phrase "Asian giant softshell turtle" also has non-primary use as a generic description of big soft turtles from Asia, and  redirects that partially disambiguated page name to a list of such species.  I think both are valid. Certes (talk) 00:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * “If the articles are to be believed” indeed was a concern of mine. It sounds as likely as “balsa is a hardwood”.
 * Refinement of the redirects and DAB pages would be best achieved by discussion at WP:RM. There is no case for a deletion. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:54, 6 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Procedural Close - This is in article space and should be at AFD. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:07, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Speedy procedural close as wrong forum, and also because it's already been changed to a redirect to giant softshell turtle. -Crossroads- (talk) 03:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.