Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Adam Best

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No consensus to delete at this time, but author should take care not to enter the realm of tendentious resubmissions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 05:42, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Adam Best


I just declined this for a third time. I don't think subject passes GNG. Submitter has basically only excluded info since first submission. Per proposed three strikes rule I'm bring this for discussion/deletion. Legacypac (talk) 16:34, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose deletion. Following rejections, the author made significant alterations.  He tried.  The author is a many-years active contributor, not a run-of-the-mill yet-another sock UPE.  The subject is plausibly notable, one of the first three references I examined does not clearly fail as attesting notability.  I suggest userfying for the author, adding suitable disambiguation to the title, creating mainspace incoming links and putting the new article into mainspace.  It is difficult for me to find whether the subject is already covered in mainspace due to his ambiguous name.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:20, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Dab to what? He's done a few things, none of which are especially notable. Mind you, he's more notable than pageant winners, but by that standard we'd pass 3/4s of the rejected drafts to mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 04:24, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * "Dab to what?"? I don't understand "Dab".  Userfy, and demand that the author produce the three best sources that are reliable, independent, and discuss the subject directly.  Until that is done, do not resubmit.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:55, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * DAB as in Adam Best (filmmaker) or Adam Best (businessman) or something. His name is too common. Legacypac (talk) 05:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

From my talk:

Hi,

I really don't understand why my submission keeps getting rejected, and every time reviewers come up with new reasons for why it doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements. But OK, let's address your specific objections:

1. You said that my submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability and lack to demonstrate significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I strongly disagree: my references do include significant mentions and even feature articles about the subject.

Nine Questions with Zach and Adam Best, October, 2105, 417 Magazine - This is a feature article highlighting Adam Best and his brother as creators of Fansided, one of the most popular sports news outlets in the country.

Time Inc. Acquires FanSided, a Sports and Entertainment Digital Network, May 26, 2015, Sports Illustrated - You might have interpreted this as a mere mention. However, as a founder of Fansided, Adam Best's inclusion in this article is a crucial part of the news itself.

If for some reason they are not presented correctly in my article, or if I failed to present additional details that I should have, I hope you can help me do so adequately.

2. Wikipedia's notability guidelines say that a person is considered to be notable when: "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors." Adam Best is cited on a weekly basis by some of the most prominent national print and online publications in the United States. Here are just some of the recent articles that cited Adam Best's commentary in the past two months:

The Washington Examiner - March 6, 2018 The Drum - March 5, 2018 The Mercury News - February 25, 2018 Bustle - February 23, 2018 NJ.com - February 21,208 Patch.com - February 7, 2018 Vibe - February 6, 2018 PopCulture.com - February 6, 2018

3. Wikipedia's notability guidelines say that a person is considered to be notable when: "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews."

Adam Best is a co-founder and the former CEO of one of the most popular sports, news, and entertainment networks in the U.S. - Fansided. Moreover, he is also the Founder and CEO of 50 States of Blue, a national hub for local news and progressive politics from all 50 states and the District of Columbia. Just these two creations are more than notable-enough in my opinion. I'm sure that there are thousands of articles on Wikipedia dedicated to people who are much less known and play a much less influential role in our society. So I really don't understand why you nominated Adam Best's article for deletion.

I hope that, as an experienced editor, you can help me make the necessary edits to my Adam Best article, so that it is finally accepted and published. Hundreds of thousands of people read Adam Best's commentary every day, and they deserve to know who he is. A Wikipedia page about Adam Best would be a helpful source of information to those people.

Jackie845 (talk) 15:59, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Legacypac (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I just need some more direction on what exactly I need to add in order to have my submission accepted. It was declined three times, but every time it was something different. I tried to address the shortcomings based on each feedback. However, I strongly disagree with Legacypac's comments saying that Adam Best lacks notability. Adam Best is a co-founder and the former CEO of one of the most popular sports, news, and entertainment networks in the U.S. - Fansided. He is also the Founder and CEO of a national political news outlet 50 States of Blue (50StatesofBlue.com). Moreover, Best is widely cited on a weekly basis by some of the most prominent national publications in the U.S., including The Washington Examiner, Hollywood Reporter, The Wrap, The Drum, Bustle, NJ.com, Patch.com, PopCulture.com, etc. I'm sure he is notable enough to have a Wikipedia page. Jackie845 (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Jackie845 thank-you for commenting. What one or two words would you use to describe Adam Best? Why is he famous? Legacypac (talk) 17:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac He calls himself a film producer. But I would probably add "entrepreneur" to it, since he's more known for his successful ventures with Fansided and 50 States of Blue. So, "Entrepreneur/Film Producer" or "Producer/Entrepreneur" - would be my 2-3-word description. Jackie845 (talk) 13:50, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac Also, I noticed that you included a list of acceptable sources of information on my submission page, including "news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference." I did a quick search and "Adam Best" comes up on the first page when you search news, HighBeam, and NYT. He's been quoted in The Washington Post and The New York Times, as well as a number of other outlets I had mentioned earlier. Is that still not enough to confirm his notability? Jackie845 (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The search links are automatically added. Add them to the page. This discussion appears to be giving you more time to improve the page. Legacypac (talk) 16:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your guidance. Before I make the edits and resubmit the article, I want to clarify how I should add these links. Should I add all of them in the "External Links" section, including: "news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference"? Or did you mean something else? I just want to make sure I do it right, so that you don't have to reject my submission more times than needed. Thank you. Jackie845 (talk) 20:13, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

No, those links are to assist you in searching for appropriate sources. They are better than just a google search. Legacypac (talk) 21:39, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - The author is not exactly a many-years-active contributor, but a sporadic contributor. As such, a question as to conflict of interest is in order.  Is the author associated with the subject?  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Suggest dab to Adam Best (businessman). Robert McClenon (talk) 02:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.