Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Adam Cooley

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Withdrawn and moved to mainspace There's a consensus here not to delete and that it has at least a 50% chance in mainspace, as such it meets the AfC criteria for acceptance. Non-admin closure. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Adam Cooley


Draft declined six times over nine months and showing no signs of improvement. Notability for the draft hasn't been established and doesn't seem likely to be. Draft also suffers from promotional tones as well, but just not to the G11 level in my mind. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I did some work on improving the tone earlier, to make it more neutral, and there is evidence that the creator has put a significant amount of time into developing the article. I warned them on my talk page that if they did not provide more citations, content would be removed. They did then provide a couple of extra references. I do not think that deleting it is a reasonable solution. We should be helping the editor to construct this into a more appropriate article. Googling 'Adam Cooley artist' does provide a good selection of results, and the notability of the subject is covered in the article, albeit not in the way we would expect from a highly-experienced editor. For the reasons given and that I think we should be giving the article time in the main space—to allow others with topic knowledge to work on it—I shall be opposing deletion of this draft.– Sb2001 talk page 18:11, 23 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose I believe we are too tough on drafts. We should screen out the worst and let the rest through to mainspace to sink or swim. No one is required to use AfC - they could just create in mainspace. So move to mainspace and let's see if it improves. Legacypac (talk) 19:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * If consensus here is that the artist could likely survive AfD, then I'd have no objection to him being moved to mainspace: my largest concern here is that it has been consistently rejected for almost a year as an AfC draft: since little was being done to address the actual concerns in the article raised by multiple reviewers, keeping it there seemed a timewaster of our AfC reviewers time, and a NOTWEBHOST violation if it was just going to sit in draft forever. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:49, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I concur with Legacypac. It looks like at least a 50% chance of surviving in mainspace, but mainspace editors are ruthless in their checking.  Let it sink or swim on it's merits. Hasteur (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The creator is often not skilled enough at Wikipedia editing to fix all the issues. Lots of mainspace editors will take care of things. Legacypac (talk) 23:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.