Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ajay Shukla

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Move to mainspace. Any interested editor may launch an AfD. (non-admin closure) &#x222F; WBG converse 19:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Ajay Shukla


Draftified three times, including after author was told to use AFC. Now move-protected due to move-warring. Work of probable paid editor (known paid editor of another draft). Author has been trying to game the system with disambiguators to title of article.

Recommend Extended-Confirmed Create Protection in both article space and draft space so that a neutral editor can create a draft or article as appropriate. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I am not the paid editor at all I never take article for getting me paid. If anyone comes to me then I tell them if your notability stands then editors would pick up...--Neerajmadhuria72014 (talk) 05:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Mainspace and remove ’s pagemover privilege for the improper draftifiaction. AfC is NOT required. Forceful draftification requires WP:AfD. If deletion is required, AfD is the place to do it. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * please see WP:COIEDIT and WP:PAY that state you should put new articles through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process instead of creating them directly;. GSS (talk |c|em ) 03:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Those policies state "should" not "must". -- Whpq (talk) 05:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but still the policy doesn't want paid users to appear directly in mainspace due to their promotional efforts. Thank you. GSS (talk |c|em ) 05:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I edited the "should"s to "must"s. Where is the best talk page for this??  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:33, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * User:GSS, no, the creator-author should, not you. You should put it through AfD.  What you were doing was back-door deletion.
 * OK, Drafts point 4. You are a new page reviewer, and it was an unreviewed page, and the author "clearly has a conflict of interest".  In the draftifying edit, you should link to evidence of the clear COI.
 * WP:COIEDIT was soft-worded, so I fixed it. I edited WP:DRAFTIFY to match.
 * Note (the clarified text) "Whenever this is done the draftifier must inform the author that COI editors must submit new articles through Articles for Creation "
 * --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:31, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you and I appriciate that. I normaly ask the creator/editor to diclose COI (e.g. ) and Neerajmadhuria72014 was advised to use the AfC process which he ignored and then tried to game the system. When I first moved this page it was in poor condition with questionable notability and had unreliable sources, but rather than improving the draft and submitting it for a review Neerajmadhuria72014 moved it back under Ajay Shukla (Hindi Journalists) and start move warring. Anyways thank you for your advice and changing the wording at WP:COIEDIT. :) GSS (talk |c|em ) 06:11, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Move back to mainspace and then send to AfD - Consensus currently allows for unilateral WP:BOLD draftification per WP:DRAFTIFY. This, however, is essentially an edit war over notability, and needs to be properly handled at WP:AfD per WP:BRD. Nathan2055talk - contribs 03:23, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.