Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Alexander Jackson Maier-Dlamini

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 22:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Alexander Jackson Maier-Dlamini

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Appears to be mostly a hoax, I can't find anywhere that reliably states the subject is infact an aristocrat Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 09:25, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as the core claim to notability (a British/Irish noble title) appears to be made up from whole cloth. There is no record of any 'Marquess of Annaville' in any records of the British Peerage, despite what the author of the article claims, nor can I find any reference of this person being married to a Liswati prince. I realise that WP:NMFD states that drafts should only be brought here if they have been repeatedly submitted and declined (and I doubt two submissions, even without any improvement between them meets the standard of 'repeatedly'), but given that this article is exceptionally unlikely to ever meet the standards for mainspace, and is a pretty clear-cut hoax, I ask that we apply a little WP:IAR and send it to the bit bucket.  ƒirefly  ( t · c ) 10:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, as a combination of G3 and G11. The British and African nobility/royalty claims are clearly made up and they are just used to promote the subject. Delete the Marquess. Nsk92 (talk) 11:59, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the Prince too, G3/G11. What's with these people's obsession with fake titles? Nsk92 (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete hoax. SK2242 (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per the made nobility claims. —  csc -1 14:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Probable G3, and we are here. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:58, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The sources are significant and confirm the information. I’d say let the page publish and if the claims are false they would yield a pretender section, which would be worse than a deletion. I see grounds for publishing as the punishment for anything washy in details would be part of what could be a long, elaborate ruse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B8D9:DFE0:B9AF:E67E:1969:3FD5 (talk) 04:53, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * We absolutely CANNOT do that. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 04:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The information is certainly accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B8D9:DFE0:B9AF:E67E:1969:3FD5 (talk) 04:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - While I would normally be inclined to ignore the sourcing here (as this is a draft) a quick perusal of the sources makes it pretty obvious the nobility claim is made out of whole cloth, and a Google search likewise returns jack on that claim and on notability references en generale (strings: Alexander Jackson Maier-Dlamini, Alexander Jackson Maier). While an argument could be made that this is not G3able (as most of the sources proffered are based upon his acting roles), I get the sense this is G11able, with the fabricated nobility claims being a rather blatant promotion attempt. I should note the subject-apparent, who I presume is the IPv6 in this discussion, also attempted to canvass helpers at #wikipedia-en-help. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 05:10, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the addenda as well. No source means no go. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Takes a strong man to deny... 23:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - For evidence of this being a hoax, the creator of this article tried to add the Marquess of Annaville to the List of marquesses in the peerages of Britain and Ireland with a creation date of 1843. A search in the 1847 edition of Debrett's Peerage finds only 2 mentions of Annaville, with both of them referring to the town of origin for Lady Harriet O'Brien's husband. Lady Harriet O'Brien was the sister of the 2nd and 3rd Marquessees of Thomond. The 1850 edition of Burke's Peerage finds no results for Annaville. Additionally, The London Gazette, where peerage appointments are officially published to this day, has only 7 results for a search for Annaville, 1 from 2008, 5 from the between 1936 and 1956, and the oldest from 1852, 10 years after the marquessate would have been created. None of these results refer to a marquessate, but instead are a mix of references to the actual village of Annaville or to streets that are named Annaville. The main "source" they are relying on is an article published in the St. Lucia Star, which they had uploaded photos of onto Commons, which were deleted for copyright reasons. The article was written by Alexander Jackson Maier-Dlamini himself and claimed that he had received a phone call last week telling him that he was suddenly the 11th Marquess of Annaville, but offered no proof beyond his own claim. I have not been able to find a digital copy of this article, so unfortunately I can't include it for reference. Emk9 (talk) 09:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Additional note, should Draft:Sungani Maveni Maier-Dlamini, Alexander Jackson Maier-Dlamini's husband be bundled with this discussion? Emk9 (talk) 09:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I would say so, yes. I was going to add it, but that would be poor form for a nomination that's not mine (oops!). what say you?  ƒirefly  ( t · c ) 10:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 13:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Added as clearly deletable under the same criteria as the other draft. ƒirefly  ( t · c ) 14:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's a hoax and it's vanity spam. Blablubbs | talk 17:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Per Firefly; no evidence of notability and strong evidence of hoax. Darren-M   talk  21:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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