Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Almaarefa College for Science and Technology

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Almaarefa College for Science and Technology

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Declined four times for lacking sources. Still unsourced. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Neutral at this time while considering what to do about this sort of case. The problem is that the college probably is notable, but the submitter hasn't made any effort to source it or to ask for help in providing sources.  Do we delete the current draft to allow another editor to submit a better draft?  Do we ECP the draft in order to keep its editor away from it?  Do we topic-ban the editor, which seems more extreme than is called for.  I don't see any obvious answer to the problem, which is repeated resubmissions of a draft on a probably notable institution.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable, missing article.  One of few redlinks at List of universities and colleges in Saudi Arabia. The author needs help, obviously.  AfC doesn’t provide help.  The most likely way to best help would be to mainspace the draft. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ve advised the author to get more experience in mainspace. There are several closely related pages they can work on, and in doing so they should get to know other editors.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:23, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep With the exception of the most recent submission, user looks as if they were making good faith efforts to improve the article (no matter how misguided). Typically in this situation, I decline with a warning that resubmission with solid improvement in the noted areas is just attempting to get approval from another editor which is considered WP:GAMING the system. Then, if they do it again, I reject it as contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If we get a submission after that, then I'd be fully onboard the delete train. Sulfurboy (talk) 02:02, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable but needs improvement. — Sago tree spirit  (talk) 13:01, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.