Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Anitaduraku

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  userfy. This will allow the editor to move their work to sqWiki if they ever choose to come back to it. signed,Rosguill talk 03:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Anitaduraku

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Just realized that this is a foreign language version of Metacognition, making this page unnecessary as we do not attempt to create foreign language articles on the English Wikipedia, but rather do the opposite translation direction to get articles on here. Steel1943 (talk) 19:39, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I see nothing wrong with this being in draftspace unless I'm missing something (like repeated submissions or moves to mainspace). If it were to be submitted it would just be declined with the appropriate boilerplate inviting them to contribute to the Albanian wiki. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem is that as an article, if it were translated and published, it would be eligible for WP:A10. (In other words, this draft technically has no mainspace potential, which is the primary function of drafts' existence.) In addition, from comparing the two pages (the draft was created after the article), the translated version is a duplicate of the English article. I suppose what I'm getting at is if this needs to be retained, the content should be transferred over to the Albanian Wikipedia, given that per the subject's applicable Wikidata entry, there currently is no article on the Albanian Wikipedia for this subject. (The prefix for the Albanian Wikipedia is apparently "sq", and the Wikidata entry has no "sq" entry currently.) The English Wikipedia is not a host for foreign language content that already has an English equivalent; the editor who created this page should have posted this content into the Albanian Wikipedia, not here. Steel1943  (talk) 21:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * For additional reference, as of this moment, sq:Metakonjicioni (the way the author of this draft spells it ... I'm not sure if that's right or not since translation services for English to Albanian for the word "metacognition" says the word has no Albanian translation) and sq:Metacognition do not exist. Steel1943  (talk) 21:37, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And also, here is the list of contributions by the draft's creator on the Albanian Wikipedia for reference. Steel1943  (talk) 21:41, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. This appears to be a missing article at sq.wikipedia.org.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:00, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have made that clear in my previous comment, but that would not be a reason for this page to be retained on the English Wikipedia. I know that edit histories can be transferred from the English Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons, so hopefully there's a way for that to happen between Wikipedias. Either way, the English Wikipedia is the wrong Wikipedia to host this page, especially considering that the article already exists, the draft is a partial translation of the existing article, and the translation had no value on the English Wikipedia. Steel1943  (talk) 06:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What’s with the xenophobia? En.wikipedia.org is the main Wikipedia, and it make sense that it will tend to be used as a central point for translations. Deletion here would be destructive.  What is the advantage of deletion?  This is a perfectly reasonable use of draftspace, although personally I recommend people use userspace.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ...I don't think I have any more to say since I've already presented my case, and the "xenophobia" accusation seems like a WP:AGF failure. Good day. Steel1943  (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * we do not attempt to create foreign language articles on the English Wikipedia, but rather do the opposite translation direction to get articles on here fits the dictionary definition of xenophobia. It seeks to expunge non-English from the English Wikipedia. It asserts that translations have to be done elsewhere.  However, what if there are multiple languages to translate from and too?  Is there a different central point?  I don’t think there is, and I think translating an English Wikipedia article into other languages for the purpose of fixing missing articles in other languages is a perfectly appropriate thing to do. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ...Yep, my point is still missed. Again with the WP:AGF failure, and apparently the lack of understanding of the goal of the English Wikipedia. I'm just confirming that I have read this, and have no further desire to respond since I honestly feel as though trying to discuss this further is an unnecessary and unresolvable time sink. Steel1943  (talk) 15:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * “delete because foreign” and notions that translations for other languages need go go elsewhere, are repugnant to me. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or Userfy - Just because millions of editors thinks that the English Wikipedia is the central Wikipedia doesn't make User:SmokeyJoe right on the point, only reasonably mistaken. We should be trying to discourage the use of the English Wikipedia for non-English stuff as gently as we can, and that includes not using English draft space as a foreign draft space.  If the user wants to keep it in user space, that is all right.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * "Userfy" works as well. Steel1943  (talk) 15:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Move content to sq:Metakonjicioni. This is useless here on enwiki, even if translated back, and I do not see the point in userfying it either. However, as previously stated, it is a missing article on the Albanian Wikipedia. If this is kept as a local draft regardless, it should be moved to the clearer title Draft:Metakonjicioni. (I am also not sure if metakonjicioni is an actual Albanian word, but an Albanian speaker using it makes it one de facto. And, per AGF, they are probably being truthful on the word's existence.) Glades12 (talk) 06:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Userfy per above and WP:DUD. Content may have reasonable use(s) on another language Wikipedia or could be translated, so I think its sensible to extend leeway to its existence here. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 09:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
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