Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Chioma Avril Rowland

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. (non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 17:08, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Chioma Avril Rowland

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A non-notable figure recently appeared in the news due to being engaged to a notable singer, thus WP:INHERITED. It's unreasonable to maintain the draft, which has already been deleted through previous discussions as well as here. I tagged it for speedy deletion, but since it seems difficult to process, I am bringing it here. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 19:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Keep Drafts aren't deleted for being non-notable, and the title is salted anyways. The article was the one deleted by consensus, not the draft. Ca talk to me!  14:53, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ca, the draft has been deleted twice after a clear consensus at AFD. I tagged this one for salting and deletion since the subject isn't notable and I don't see that coming (though I never can tell). Since this has been recreated, it should be deleted. It doesn't matter whether the article is the one deleted. When a closely created draft to the one previously deleted is found, it better to delete and salt. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 15:21, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I was basing my response off of Drafts are not checked for notability or sanity. Draft are not required to be notable, and thus an AfD decision is not relevant here. Ca talk to me!  15:29, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @SafariScribe Can you just let people say their opinion. How can you make a statement of not seeing people being notable in the future. Are you God. I am still wondering how you manage to get a reviewer right. I believe in Wikipedia is not just doing what is right but with WP:GOODFAITH. I saw when you created the Mfd but choose to be quite. If anyone could have said a delete you would have been quiet because they supported you. But I believe a Wikipedia admin will not just close a discussion because an editor said keep or delete. The reason for the keep or delete will be examine. Meanwhile, I have said why the draft is supposed to be keep on its talk page Draft talk:Chioma Avril Rowland. So I don’t think further reason it’s needed here for me.  Gabriel  (talk to me )  16:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - Drafts are not deleted for notability or sanity.
 * There is a critical distinction about deletion discussions that maybe needs clarification. The article was deleted from article space by an AFD, and then another version of the article with a slightly different name was created in article space, and was deleted as G4.  This draft is in draft space.  A draft should be deleted from draft space if it (or another version of the title) has been deleted from draft space by MFD, but a draft is not deleted from draft space simply because the article was deleted by AFD.  Perhaps the wording of G4 should be clarified.  This draft should be Rejected for proven lack of notability if it is submitted, but drafts are not deleted simply because they will never be accepted.
 * This draft title should not be salted in draft space, because that would only result in the ultras who support the subject gaming the name with another draft title, where an AFC reviewer might not see the record of previous deletions. It is better to leave the draft title as a honey pot.
 * The nominator is mostly right, but there is a critical fine distinction. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep: Per WP:NDRAFT. The nominator’s reasons are reasons for it to be in draftspace. Notability is not a reason to delete a draft.  The page having been previously deleted at AfD is not a reason to delete a draft a MfD.  SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Robert McClenon, @SmokeyJoe, and @Gabriel601, thank you for the words. I think I got this one wrong as it isn't a matter of MFD. I a closing as KEEP. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:49, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ca, thanks also. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:50, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.