Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Daniel Lorraine

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Daniel Lorraine


Article about a character in Martha Speaks has been rejected multiple times for lack of independent notability, yet the editor continues to submit this over and over without improvement to AFC and deletes the AFC rejection notices. Article was also originally created by a sockpuppet. Should we put this to rest? AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 07:17, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Absolutely not. 2407:7000:A269:8200:F479:F338:E348:CD7A (talk) 07:24, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability, plus Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate list of information., let's also include:

Which seem to be made by the same IP/sockpuppet. Bkissin (talk) 20:00, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Draft:Mariella_Lorraine
 * Draft:Alice Boxwood
 * Draft:Helen Lorraine


 * If those are confirmed to be a sockpuppet evader then you can CSD G5 them. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , it seems as if IP 2407:7000:A269:8200:F479:F338:E348:CD7A and 2407:7000:A269:8200:F1DB:241E:1165:8337 are the same user. I just don't know if they've been given enough warning yet. Bkissin (talk) 20:19, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * &, see Sockpuppet investigations/JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat and Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat 47.72.38.3 (talk) 23:47, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Sounds pretty bad, but still, if not G5-eligible, it can be used. Redirect to List_of_Martha_Speaks_characters and Protect the redirect. Draftspace should not be used for WP:UNDUE spinouts, instead, expand existing coverage where it is, and seek talkpage concensus for any WP:SPINOUT. It is very unlikely that this character will get that.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! We have suggested a merge of the existing information to List of Martha Speaks characters per WP:AGF, but the editors in question have used similar arguments to the sockpuppet in my talk page. Protecting the redirects may be a good idea rather than salting all the titles. I put G5 tags on all the other pages. Bkissin (talk) 02:57, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I have also nominated List of Martha Speaks characters for deletion as well for similar reasons (notability/sockpuppetry). 47.72.38.3 (talk) 06:05, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect this page anyway. If the target gets deleted, then this will be deleted CSD#G8.  I wouldn't assume the target will be deleted.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:35, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The article has already been redirected. However, I can't close this discussion. 47.72.38.3 (talk) 03:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The draft (not an article) was redirected, against procedure. IPs should not be closing discussions.  I think IPs do not belong in ProjectSpace at all, I think you should WP:Register.  If you have ever registered, you are breaking WP:SOCK by editing projectspace while logged out.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comments - First, Register an account if you are editing from an IP address. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Aarrgghh - I thought you weren't supposed to blank or redirect things while there is a deletion discussion. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You're not. BLP violations might be a justification.  Should we slap the redirecting MacIP?  User talk:2407:7000:A269:8200:2CAF:AFFF:D0D:BA46 is already featuring high level warning, we could get it blocked.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ,, I was the one who G5'd the drafts, but didn't do any of the redirects. The IPs involved here may be more socks of Sockpuppet investigations/JoeyPknowsalotaboutthat Bkissin (talk) 14:01, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I restored the main Draft, waiting for discussion to formally close before redirecting (and possibly salting) AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:18, 31 October 2018 (UTC)*


 * Comment I was contacted again by the original editor (on a new IP), who is on a religious crusade to get South Park articles deleted from the website. Can someone check to make sure I filled out the information correctly for the Sockpuppet Investigation? Bkissin (talk) 14:25, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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