Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Drashko Atanasoski

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Although I will restore if someone translates it and can confirm the person meets WP:NPROF. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Drashko Atanasoski


This is an autobiography in the Cyrillic alphabet. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - is there any reason why we can't Speedy non-English language submissions? KJP1 (talk) 19:15, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes. Because they can be translated into English and may turn out to be useful articles.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:22, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment That is the way that the rules are written. I would indeed prefer to be able to speedy non-English submissions.  Some of our policies and principles seem to date back to 2003 or 2004 when there was a mindset that we were desperate to get enough articles to be a big encyclopedia.  With 5.5 million articles, I think that it is more important to keep the encyclopedia free of crud, which means deleting things that need deleting, and expecting that a contributor who has something useful to contribute can either write it in English or request its translation into English (from the appropriate language encyclopedia).  However, that is only my opinion, and it is politically incorrect.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:02, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I see, many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 19:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Wikipedia does not ban autobiographies outright, although they are discouraged. And we rarely delete drafts for notability reasons. Rather, we decline the drafts, and either the author (or someone else) improves them to the point of acceptability, or they are abandoned and are eventually deleted through the db-g13 (abandoned draft) process. In either case, there is no rush to delete this draft. For the curious, the article is written in Macedonian, and is the biography of a professor specializing in transport, logistics and customs, who has also served in various minor positions in the Macedonian customs and border ministry. Unlikely to become an acceptable article, but time may prove differently. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 19:32, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete if this person does not meet WP:PROF or some other guideline now we should not host a page on them while waiting for their notability to increase. The idea that Draft space is for profiles of people that might someday maybe become notable is a very bad line of thinking. Legacypac (talk) 14:36, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment My argument for keeping the draft is not that the person may someday meet inclusion criteria, but that the person may already meet inclusion criteria, but the draft does not yet reflect that. The draft space is specifically intended for authors to be allowed to slow-roll their articles without fear of having them deleted for not meeting inclusion criteria. I don't believe we should hold drafts to the same criteria as articles, as doing so will discourage the proper use of the draft space. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.