Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Dublin Swimming Club (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Delete. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 07:37, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Dublin Swimming Club


Delete: Started as an article and move to draft in 2015, then nominated for deletion in mid-2016 but kept on the chance that someone would improve it BUT after that keep I discovered it is all the prose is a copyvio and as normal removed the violating text. That leaves us with one short sentence and an infobox. It is now WP:STALE with no real likelyhood of improvement having been given plenty of time. It's time to get rid of it. ww2censor (talk) 12:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Given the fundamental problem with copyrighted text, it's better to start from scratch if somebody wants to write an article on this club. There's a note on the talk page tht indicates a willingness to release the text under a free license, but simply repeating the prose on a web site does not make for a good (or neutral) article. -- Whpq (talk) 21:54, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a very large amount of text in the history that is not obviously copyright. Either link the source of the copyright infringement so I can compare, or rev-delete the copyright infringing additions.  There are no time limits.  If it is OK for a future editor to work again on this topic, it should not be deleted, except what what is actually copyright infringing, and even then we usually think it is OK to leave things in the history.  Blank as inactive if you like, but I oppose deletion.  It appears a notable topic.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:21, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Their main intro prose link is right there in the copyvio notice but there is much much more on the linked webpage at the bottom of "The beginning" section]. You may also want to review the previous delation Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Dublin Swimming Club where A876 responded to your post that they would like it to be saved but they never did anything and except that the same removed prose was readded by HerbdeeX. To date nothing constructive has been done to save it and it does not look like anyone is prepared to do it. Unless you, SmokeyJoe, will take it on, I don't see any volunteers, so it really should go. ww2censor (talk) 10:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * There are no time limits.
 * Avoid copyright paranoia
 * The topic is notable, and there is more than enough in the history for WP:STSUB.
 * My lack of interest in working on this topic is a pretty poor reason to delete it. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:22, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * You are right but no one has come forward. Time limits or not, how long is long enough for us to hang around? It's only a draft and there don't appear to be any, easily found, reliable sources to make this happen, anytime soon, or even anytime, even if you don't do it. I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying! Besides which usually copyvios are deleted fairly quickly and Avoid copyright paranoia is only an essay, not policy, so I won't get hung up on it. We'll just let it hang around another 6-12 months or more and revisit it then. If this were in mainspace, some of your arguments might certainly apply but it was already moved out of mainspace a long time ago. ww2censor (talk) 08:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer to see it blanked, with the hope that one day, who knows when, someone will come along and car for it. Ireland's oldest swimming club. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:23, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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