Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ethan Paisley (2nd nomination)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Per the previous MfD. I see no reason to histmerge and blank when we can simply delete this and SALT it. If someone unconnected wishes to make a draft on the topic out of sheer personal interest, great, I will happily unprotect. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 19:40, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Ethan Paisley


Recreation of a draft previously deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Ethan Paisley, still as a public relations WP:AUTOBIO rather than a proper encyclopedia article. The base notability claim still doesn't pass WP:CREATIVE, and the references still aren't reliable sources for the purposes of clearing WP:GNG, except for a tiny smattering of "local kid does stuff" in his hometown media (which isn't enough media coverage to clear GNG by itself if it's the best you can do for media coverage.) Apart from the fact that it's more prose and less table-based this time around, nothing else has actually changed except that the creator's username, "Point453movie" instead of an IP number, makes it even more obvious that this is a conflict of interest violation by either Paisley himself, who has directed a film called Point 453, or his publicist (not that it wasn't already pretty obvious last time, but this wipes out whatever doubts may have lingered.) And considering that last time around, his biggest sin was to continually resubmit it to the AFC queue again and again without actually making any changes to address the reasons why it was getting rejected, I'd request a dose of WP:SALT be applied this time as well. Bearcat (talk) 01:02, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It is not a completely hopeless topic, and the promotion is not blatant, but I read the sources as all connected promotion and therefore to be rejected by Wikipedia. WP:Alternative outlets applies, and one important alternative outlet is http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6704806/ where a full biography has been written by anonymous.
 * Instead of SALTing, I suggest undeleting the previous draft, merging the two together, then blanking except for the final 00:46, 12 November 2017 (UTC) review, and applying Full Protection.
 * The author(s) appear to not be interested in taking AfC feedback. They have the right to use a registered account, declaring any connections as per WP:COI, and putting an article straight into article space.  That will lead to a more definitive answer from WP:AfD.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:37, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.