Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Geko (UK Rapper)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Even split, so no consensus to delete at this time. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 20:45, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Geko (UK Rapper)

 * &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Non notable rapper abandoned draft Legacypac (talk) 16:14, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete. G11 or at least WP:TNT.  Referenced to eight youtube links.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:NMFD. The draft doesn't seem so obviously self-serving that G11 applies. Here's an interview from The Voice, so the subject verifiably exists beyond Youtube. VQuakr (talk) 01:32, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Because *every* word is (allegedly) sourced from unreliable sources (all are youtube), everything must be thrown away even if it is worth re-drafting. Therefore, WP:TNT.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:35, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That's not necessarily true. For example, if content is verifiable then the sourcing can be added without first deleting the content. VQuakr (talk) 01:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - The case for blowing up hasn't been established. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:00, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Having looked at the youtube videos, they are moderately respectable youtube channels, but in the end they are youtube channels. Youtube is never sufficient as the sourcing of content.  Even if Geko' DOB really is 15 June 1997, youtube is not an acceptable source for it.  Also, in my judgement, the youtube videos are non-independent promotion.  Not sufficiently independent, even if we accept youtube channels.  So the page should be G11-ed.  However, admitting that this rapper does have some notability claims, the mention of WP:TNT serves to encourage someone to try again, but that starting again means starting with sources more reliable and independent than youtube.  There are a number of ghits on: geko+rapper.  OK, the facts as listed might be helpful in re-starting the article, but every source needs substitution for something reliable.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:12, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
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