Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Goji Food Solutions

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No consensus to delete at present. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 02:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Goji Food Solutions


This an abandoned AfC submission about a tech company that was developing a new type of cooking ("radio-frequency cooking'). The draft's creator ceased working on it about a year ago after it had been declined at AfC three times.  It was 'G13 postponed' once, in December 2017.  Things took a strange turn yesterday, when the draft was nominated for speedy deletion under G11 (promotion/advertising).  Earlier today, that nomination was declined as being a "close call" .  And then, one minute later (yes, you read that right -- one minute later), the person who nominated the draft for being overly promotional moved it into Main space.  I've moved it back to Draft space and am nominating it here for a discussion. Despite the large number of sources, virtually none of them offer anything of substance about the company.  And the draft itself isn't at all clear about its topic -- is it the company, the particular product they were developing, or about the basic technology ("radio-frequency cooking"). I also note that at the time the draft's creator abandoned work, the company's product had not yet been released and the sources from 2017 were all speaking about how the company was "going to" or "planning to" revolutionize the way we cook. Apparently, the product was released in August 2017, but my searches reveal no coverage of it other than a blog announcing the release. In all, I think that this draft really was intended merely to promote that product and should be deleted. NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:53, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment as the page was deemed "a close call" and potentially notable and it was not deleted G11 when I bulk nominated a bunch of pages tagged in AfC as Adverts, I sent it to mainspace to see how NPR treated it. If it got tagged for notability/spam it could go to AfD. Anyway, here we are back in draft at a discussion. Legacypac (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - If I have read the history correctly, this page was sent into mainspace in order to take it to AFD. I think that taking a page into mainspace in order to take it to AFD is a terrible idea, and is not the sort of terrible idea that a constructive editor is entitled to, but is disruptive.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well the question is notability. I wanted to see what NPR and tagged wikiprojects had to say about it - wisdom of the crowd and all. I think there is a decent case for notability here but the page has some issues. If someone slse nominated it for notability issues and made a good case I would not scream about it, but I was not planning to nominate it myself. Some editors insist we can't even think about notability at MfD so that leaves us with testing it in mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 03:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - Taking a page into mainspace in order to tag it for deletion is just plain wrong in my opinion. If you aren't sure if something belongs in mainspace, don't put it in mainspace; to do so pollutes mainspace.  Deletion from mainspace is always at best the lesser of evils.  If something needs deleting from mainspace, it shouldn't have been in mainspace in the first place.  Don't take anything into mainspace unless the reason is that one believes it belongs in mainspace.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:42, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - It has promotional aspects, but is not G11, and can reasonably be worked on. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:44, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.