Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Gregg Kevin Jann

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:08, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Gregg Kevin Jann


Nearly incomprehensible draft. Submitted three times. Declined twice, and rejected once, but the rejection was reverted without discussion. The next step after a rejection is ignored is nomination for deletion, so here we are.

This will never be an encyclopedic article. It is poorly sourced and does not make a parseable credible claim of significance.

As AngusWoof says, it reads as if it was copied from a biography or biography web site, but it is a florid overwritten biographical sketch. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:09, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

It was AugustTip's first attempt at biography on Wikipedia- it was not copied. The draft is about perhaps a Black Listed Person by media like newsprint or politco/religio, even though Gregg Kevin Jann is printed sometimes AS YOU SAW the references of. It could be by government that makes few references for Gregg, for he was never an inmate of any kind. Gregg Jann worked and is at the bare bolts end of drafting Prop 63, California's Mental Health Services Act, and I think Wikipedia gives credit like most people to 2 state Senators who simply Endorsed this legislation - did not get it started or designed it as Gregg Jann did. Gregg Jann is an unknown person, he did things not covered in media as he should have- like he did strategize a union fight to win labor rights signing a first labor contract and labor rights for psychiatric disabled consumers - not a glamorous life but he should be noted in Wikipedia. AugustTip appreciates advice from editors, this Gregg K. Jann must be in Wikipedia for the good that he has done - he is honest and believable- media nor law do not cover "crazy designer," if that is him in references. AugustTip emailed this draft to an IP lawyer in San Francisco, to go over writing that what you want. I won't submit again without a more perfected copy, it is modest of what goes into public view. That of a man who claims to have  been a Reagan speaker, the AIDS namer, and one internet source - all not yet paid or cared about for Black List as AugustTip sees it- we can leave that wild stuff out but the Subway runaway is local color and how they can know you!! Please wait to delete the draft - I'm working on an important person who affected history.AugustTip (talk) 00:41, 14 March 2019 (UTC)AugustTip

The AIDS name has never been credited, and Gregg Jann tried to credit it in his name in A Jann Plan. He went to the Sonoma County Medical Association and he heard it was a deadly communicable disease obviously, and it is a threat to him if his doctor doesn't protect well the blood supply and the gay community near where he lives does not spill his red blood in fights. His IP lawyer is not a threat to Wikipedia, he is to enhance credibility and writing of what he can represent. The local San Francisco area may be volatile and angry at AIDS getting attention and assumed care to merely a namer as Gregg Jann does on his blog. AugustTip may delete Gregg Jann claim for AIDS namer like the whole health industry is corrupt, as Gregg Jann waited for his paraprofessional counseling credentials to materialize. This is like a lot of IP claims Gregg Jann does - was he classified, stolen, or just too new? Maybe Wikipedia would be proud of a scoop if lawyer backed AugustTip up.198.102.103.102 (talk) 21:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)AugustTip 198.102.103.100 (talk) 00:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)AugustTip - third person is the language of Wikipedia.org, not matter who the expert is or who is editing the article. Is this AIDS namer portion too self explanatory, and too controversial for inclusion in the encyclopedia as notice is little available? Gregg Jann is newsworthy, and I am working on an article with credibility for Gregg Jann is great unknown sources in our history as many industries according to A Jann Plan, some other of his books. AugustTip (talk) 00:45, 18 March 2019 (UTC)AugustTip: reference in Chico State Alum Magazine with Gregg Jann's picture in Chico Statements:https://www.csuchico.edu/chicostatements/2012-spring/alumni-notes-index.shtml Is this notable enough counting as one reference for degree and career?, with lots of competition in a school size of 15,000 students and 125 years of alumni ranked pretty good in public schools. He also went and graduated from Sonoma State University.
 * Delete and say what AugustTip? I see words but they make no sense. Legacypac (talk) 01:14, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete:, have you considered reading WP:YFA? –eggofreason(talk &middot; contribs) 16:21, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete It needs a fundamental rewrite and proper sourcing. If he coined AIDS then why isn't he credited as a co-namer in History of HIV/AIDS? Also per No legal threats I don't see why this needs to be screened through an IP lawyer. It should either be rewritten to just starting with a single paragraph with WP:THREE reliable sources, or not at all. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 16:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete Why are you referring to yourself in the third person?  CoolSkittle  (talk) 22:15, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * "Alumni notes" writeups are often self-published. What happened to news and magazine articles? AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 14:42, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

AugustTip (talk) 19:34, 18 March 2019 (UTC)AugustTip found these book review references of 2 of his books at his Rose Dog Books publisher:http://rosedogbookstore.com/van-goghing-gregg-1/#product-reviews; http://rosedogbookstore.com/a-jann-plan-creative-origins-advocacy-teach-peace-and-creative-accountability/#product-reviews   These say what these 2 books are notable for, that Gregg Jann is a legend in the mental health field and stood for election for Character Ed in schools as previous references proved. I don't know what a book with a beginning chapter on stopping a mass murderer in the first person as a teenager as a footnote would help prove a man with a health business license from Santa Rosa, CA for his health advancements that should be recorded and documented in Wikipedia, but the writing of the A Jann Plan review shows 2 cases about people for not getting media coverage even locally for substantial things Jann did in history like a Black List that we should be brave in writing and clear up. NOTE: Rusty Selix gets a footnote credit to Mayor of Sacramento as co-writer of the Mental health Services Act here in Wikipedia, and AugustTip met with the new Sonoma County Mental health Director on a "Credit Issue" and to call the Darrel Steinberg Institute of Sacramento about Mr. Jann and this is where Rusty Selix is honored. Maybe this organization can keep us abreast this week if I do it right. I believe in Gregg Jann!!
 * Your two links are not reliable sources in the slightest. Your sources should at least satisfy WP:42, but they're both anonymous review pieces on a book store selling the subject's books that are neither reliable or independent in any way. –eggofreason(talk &middot; contribs) 23:05, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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