Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Hasdie Hasnan

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. I do not think Primefac can be criticised for declining G4: its definition excludes "content that has been... converted to a draft for explicit improvement" and we should be reluctant to close the door on the possibility of improving rejected content. It is a matter of judgment in a particular case whether there are realistic prospects of improvement, and if in doubt MfD is the right place to come. For the same reason, I am reluctant to salt this draft title, yet. The mainspace title has been salted. JohnCD (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Hasdie Hasnan


This is actually a clear G4, but an admin has already refused the speedy without giving a good reason to do so, thus MfD is the only route still open to getting rid of this obvious junk that has been deleted four times in mainspace as well as once before in draftspace. IMHO salting in both main and draft spaces should be considered. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Promotional autobiography, which author/subject keeps submitting as-is without improvement. See also Articles for deletion/Hasdie Hasnan.  -- Finngall   talk  20:05, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - TENDITIOUS editing by the creator by refusing to improve before resubmitting. Salt it all. For the record, the proper diff is this one, where I do give my reasons. Drafts can have the potential to be improved over the original page that was deleted, even if at that particular moment they're identical. This is kind of the purpose of the draft space. However, it's clear that the person(s) interested in creating a page about Hasnan have zero interest in following our guidelines and policies. Primefac (talk) 20:18, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * CSD G4 per Articles for deletion/Hasdie Hasnan. Ugh. Primefac is not an administrator, original diff in nomination is wrong one, "reasons" given in correct diff are not based on any policy, this has been repeatedly re-created multiple times against deletion policy, creator has many accounts, draft is borderline CSD A7 to begin with, etc. etc. Is there even a single thing that is right and proper here?! jni (delete)...just not interested 20:35, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I've seen plenty of drafts, deleted at AFD, become accepted after improvements. On the one hand it was resubmitted without changes, but it also was G4'd immediately after being turned into a draft. Despite the history of the page I felt I should AGF and give the creator some more time to improve it. I guess I shouldn't have been so nice. Primefac (talk) 20:47, 23 November 2016 (UTC)


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