Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Hazbin Hotel

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Withdrawn per improvements. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:10, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Hazbin Hotel

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WP:TOOSOON. Show just came out and hasn't gotten much media attention yet. Even if it does pass notability later on, this draft is too full of fancruft (people still do trivia sections?! Come on!) and OR that any serious attempt at an article would need some WP:TNT. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:05, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:TOOSOON is a good reason to put it in draftspace, and is never a reason to delete from draftspace.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:26, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * How about being a shitty draft so horrible that it would need to be completely rewritten just to be a draft? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:11, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * That is a reason to ignore a draft. It is not a reason to ask the community to examine and talk about it.  Bringing every hopeless draft to MfD is a bad idea.  You haven't given any indication why this is offensively bad, and the TOOSOON is explicitly a reason for it to be a draft.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:48, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The lede is not fancruft. Therefore the page is not "full of fancruft".  What does "too full" mean, cf. "full".  It is normal for drafting to being with stuff that looks like fancruft.  You write down what you can find, including fan sources, and then search on that information for reliable sources.  The unreliable stuff will be cut.  There is no reason for deletion in this.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:58, 1 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep, concurring with User:SmokeyJoe - This draft would need declining if it were submitted.  As to trivia sections, what do you think is the purpose of the DYKs in portals?  This is a draft.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:55, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:TNT, I agree with User:TenPoundHammer in that the draft is full of fancraft, and really doesn't provide any vital information about the show other than the trivial stuff, and I admit the Trivia section was a regretful decision of mine. Blowing it up and starting over seems to be the best option from my perspective. Hamodebu50 (talk) 16:03, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep The article was reformatted since the nomination and is now an entirely serviceable draft article. Chubbles (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.