Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:IDubbbzTV

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. No consensus to delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 15:34, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft:IDubbbzTV


Title deleted 5 times from mainspace for lack of notability and declined 3 times so far at AfC. Legacypac (talk) 07:52, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Userfy. I want to keep editing and there are a couple of sources I have not used yet. The article was deleted before some sources were added to this draft. Thanks for nominating at MfD.  Ꞷ  umbolo   08:59, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Sending to MfD is a good way to get further input beyond AfC declines. Legacypac (talk) 09:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

I do not believe that this draft should be deleted as it is for an entity who is highly relevant. We just haven't been able to get many outside sources as most mainstream media outlets avoid discussion on this person due to his controversial nature. But he is very relevant in the YouTube community and deserves his own Wikipedia article. DatGuyonYouTube (talk) 16:32, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not rely on user generated content - like Youtube - to establish notability. Until he gets that mainstream attention, no page here. Legacypac (talk) 16:39, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * He has gotten attention from a few sources outside of YouTube, but it's very rare and most paint him in a negative light which won't fly here as Wikipedia articles are to be a unbiased and neutral as possible. Also, CinemaSins has a wikipedia article despite the fact that he has gotten very little mainstream attention.DatGuyonYouTube (talk) 16:56, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Bad press, cited, is fine. I'll look into the linked page but WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS Legacypac (talk) 16:59, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * fair enough DatGuyonYouTube (talk) 17:06, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep for now. A fair number of new GNews hits since the AfD suggests that the notability (ie independent coverage) of the underlying subject may have changed since October 2016. Since there are multiple editors expressing interest in improving it and the AfC submissions haven't been repetitive bludgeoning, let's give them a chance to work. VQuakr (talk) 07:10, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. We should keep this so we can work on it more, find sources, and improve the article. DatGuyonYouTube (talk) 17:08, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.