Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Kendall Vertes

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Keep. I'm taking into consideration both the comments here and the AFC reviewer comment that the draft would be accepted if not for this MfD and the creation protection. I will unprotect the mainspace title; from there I leave it to the standard AFC process. RL0919 (talk) 17:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Kendall Vertes


This draft is Create protected, and it has been declined several times. (To the Creator(s)of this draft I am sorry but I don't think this draft will ever be an article, for this reason I have nominated the draft for deletion. ) Thegooduser   Let's Chat  🍁 02:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Kendall Vertes has been deleted many times, but there was no AfD.
 * "contribs) deleted page Kendall Vertes (Expired PROD, concern was: Kendall is not notable and therefore not eligible for a Wikipedia page. She holds no significant work outside of Dance Moms, which is where any and all sub-works she has done (such as her music video) have bee..."
 * , I request for you to reverse the WP:PROD, and list it at AfD. There is at least one source that overcomes even the last BLPPROD.  Please undelete all versions and reveal all authors.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:04, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

There is Articles for deletion/Nia Sioux on a title that this page was moved to. Legacypac (talk) 04:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I saw that, but haven’t found the connection. Also, the girl is no longer a minor, and there are “where is she now” sources. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:05, 26 November 2018 (UTC)


 * '''Comment - What is the significance of Nia Sioux? Kendall and Nia are two different people who were both protagonists on Dance Moms, and a result for one is not a result for another.  That would be Other Stuff Exists.    Robert McClenon (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete unless we want to lift the create-protection, and a case hasn't been made to do that. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - She is 15 years old, and even more caution should be taken in biographies of living persons who are minors than of other biographies of living persons. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Looks notable. Internationally touring performer. Many sources. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: I was the third of four administrators to delete the Kendall Vertes page; the fourth and fifth deletions were by, who then salted the page. I am not going to take any action myself, leaving that decision up to Nick. Personally I would not object to unsalting the title and letting this article stand or fall on its own. Just now I reviewed the five deleted versions; they were pretty awful and were all either speedied or prodded. The current draft is updated, much more detailed and better written, and has some significant references. It probably deserves a chance at mainspace, and it might survive AfD if so challenged. (If it doesn't it should probably be salted again.) -- MelanieN (talk) 18:40, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * No objection to whoever closes this MfD lifting my page protection and allowing what will happen, to happen. Nick (talk) 22:47, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.