Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Khalid Waleed AlKhudair

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 10:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Khalid Waleed AlKhudair


Self-serving autobiography created by blocked sockpuppets. Doesn't qualify for G5 because author wasn't blocked at the time. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC) Also:
 * User:Anoud 94/sandbox. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:35, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Khalid Alkhudair/sandbox


 * Delete all per WP:DENY Legacypac (talk) 22:26, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Look to me to be a notable biography and an author who doesn’t understand accounts, or can’t remember password, is new and inept. Be kind to him if he starts a conversation. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - The advice to be kind to him if he starts a conversation is more appropriate on his talk page than here. He can't start a conversation here.  He is blocked.  User:SmokeyJoe and I can disagree as to how far the assumption of good faith goes.  There were seven accounts, which is more than your usual inept newbie.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's right, which is why I left him that message at User_talk:AlanoudAlmuh. The appropriate level of AGF, I think, is that IF he opens a conversation, I will read it & respond appropriately, helpfully if he indicates good faith, but until then, delete all his page creations and block all the SOCKs.  I presume that if he indicates understanding, he can get his main account unblocked.  Or if he lost the password, he may create a new account.  Whatever.  I indicated that he should post on my talk page because I won't be watching his pages.  Seven accounts?  Oh dear.  I only saw three, each with a short run of edits, like a new account for a new day.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:38, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:SmokeyJoe - First, he can't post to your talk page. He can't post anywhere but to his own talk page.  Maybe you didn't know that blocked users are blocked from all talk pages except their own, but that is necessary, because some users are blocked primarily for posting nonsense on talk pages.  I suggest that you re-read the blocking policy.  Second, as to seven accounts, did you read the sockpuppet investigation?  It is at Sockpuppet investigations/Khalid Alkhudair/Archive.  Third, I can see that you always want to believe the best of new users.  I think that new users fall into three classes, those who are self-serving, those who are completely clueless, and those who want to contribute positively.  There is some overlap, but mostly only between the first and the second.  Also, most new users who want to contribute positively find their way to various tasks, such as copy-edit, that they can do.  At least, did you really think that a blocked user can post to your talk page to ask for help?  (Well, the rules are complicated.)  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Post sock puppetry he can come clean, apologise, request unblock of his main account, and then talk to me. No big deal until that happens. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:50, 2 April 2018 (UTC)


 * keep Poorly written and needs much work, but the subject appears to be more likely than not notable. In any case, a plausible draft. WP:DENY is opinion,, and in my view a poor idea. It is not a policy-based reason for deletion. Blocked status of the creator is not relevant. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 06:39, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't care' If someone wants they better grab it while they can and argue notable later. Needs a massive TNT. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  01:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
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