Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Luca Stricagnoli

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No consensus to delete, has only been resubmitted once since December, so I can't see that this meets the level of contentious resubmission. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Luca Stricagnoli


Delete multiple resubmission's does not appear to meet GNG. Need something to ultimately have community to opine for deletion to stop resubmission. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete first declined in Oct 2018 so this has had plenty of time to be worked into something acceptable. Legacypac (talk) 02:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Reject should mean stop working on the topic and either drop it or discuss it, but the author was continuing to work on it. Author was also creating multiple copies; it doesn't matter whether the multiple copies were an attempt to game the system or the result of impatience or not knowing how review works.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:29, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I have been working hard to get it up to scratch taking on board everything mentioned as well as chatting on live chat and they have been very helpful,i was originally draft two as someone else had made a page and was vandalising other pages,my draft 3 was only created as i attempted to have the latest one reviewed but didn't have an option, since then i even came up with multiple reasons why this should be accepted and edited it yesterday to show these, i have not got much help from anyone here, the following reasons are why i think the page should be accepted and not deleted, and if it is deleted can someone else make this page as i want to pass on the work i have done?

Reasons why luca should have a page 2 of these points are included in my latest edit 1 Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, Djs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria.

Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: - Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] -Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. - Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.

Luca has been on the cover of Chitarra Acustica in Italy, Akustikgitarre in Germany, Varese Mese in Italy. He was also featured on Guitar Acoustic in Germany and on Luca on College of Fine Arts and Communications (East Carolina University) https://artscomm.ecu.edu/international-guitar-night/ Luca at University of Victoria https://www.uvic.ca/farquhar/events/farquhar-presents/index-012719-IGN.php

2 Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

“What if?” album reached position #49 in Spain on 24 Oct 2018 http://www.itunescharts.net/esp/artists/music/luca-stricagnoli/ http://www.itunescharts.net/esp/artists/music/luca-stricagnoli/albums/what-if/ “Thunderstruck” reached position #50 in the folk chart in France http://applemusiccharts.com/fr/1289-folk/ “Thunderstruck” reached position #20 in the folk chart in the USA http://applemusiccharts.com/us/1289-folk/ “The Last of the Mohicans” reached position #21 in the folk chart in the USA http://applemusiccharts.com/us/1289-folk/

4 Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. Luca on La Repubblica (Italian National News) https://www.repubblica.it/spettacoli/musica/2017/11/11/news/luca_stricagnoli-180550669/?refresh_ce Luca appears on the website of countless theaters and philharmonics all over the world.

5 Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable). Luca has released two albums with Candyrat Records, the most important fingerstyle acoustic guitar label in the world, responsible for showing to over a hundred million people new techniques of guitar playing. Candyrat includes Andy McKee, Mike Dawes, Preston Reed and many more. https://www.candyrat.com/artists/

6 Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles.[note 5]This should be adapted appropriately for musical genre; for example, having performed two lead roles at major opera houses. Note that this criterion needs to be interpreted with caution, as there have been instances where this criterion was cited in a circular manner to create a self-fulfilling notability loop (e.g. musicians who were "notable" only for having been in two bands, of which one or both were "notable" only because those musicians had been in them.) Luca has not only been part of International Guitar Night in 2017 but in 2019 he is even the host of the event (https://internationalguitarnight.com/ ). Notable players that performed with IGN have been: Martin Taylor (https://hughsroomlive.com/event/international-guitar-night-brian-gore-martin-taylor-guinga-and-solorazaf/), Chelso Machado, (https://artistworks.com/blog/international-guitar-night-comes-napa), Ralph Towner, Andrew York, Pierre Bensusan, Guinga, (https://www.discogs.com/Pierre-Bensusan-Andrew-York-Guinga-Brian-Gore-International-Guitar-Night/release/9474274), Marco Pereira. Alex DeGrassi, Gerardo Nunez (http://www.adamwerner.com/Artists.html, Quique Sinesi (https://dcmetrotheaterarts.com/2014/01/18/international-guitar-night) and many more. For more information about it it´s enough to Google it and hundreds of websites talk about it.

7 Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. Deutsche Welle describes Luca as one of Italy´s finest acoustic guitarists. https://www.dw.com/en/guitar-maestro-luca-stricagnoli/av-46314907

NME says: “When it comes to crazy acousic skills, Luca Stricagnoli is one of the absolute best” https://www.nme.com/blogs/every-part-feel-good-inc-one-guitar-2150875

8 Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or TV network. Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable.

Luca on London One Radio: http://www.londononeradio.com/4412-2/

Luca on TV Kultura (Russian National TV) http://tvkultura.ru/article/show/article_id/200585/

Luca on LTV (Latvian TV) https://www.lsm.lv/raksts/kultura/muzika/spikeros-muzices-gitaras-virtuozs-luka-strikanjoli.a259112/

Luca on Rai 1 (Italian National TV) https://www.facebook.com/lucastricagnoliguitar/videos/vb.100004073565525/872671286211982/?type=3

Luca on Spiegel http://www.spiegel.de/video/luca-stricagnoli-spielt-auf-einer-dreihals-gitarre-video-1814818.html

Luca on SWR1 https://www.swr.de/swr1/bw/termine/uplugged-swr1-luca-stricagnoli-begnadeter-gitarrist/-/id=446400/did=18591732/nid=446400/c72x9p/index.html

Luca at Kaffee oder Tee https://programm.ard.de/?sendung=28231776852046

Luca on Deutsche Welle https://www.dw.com/en/guitar-maestro-luca-stricagnoli/av-46314907 https://www.dw.com/de/youtube-star-mit-gitarre-luca-stricagnoli/av-46314541 https://www.dw.com/es/la-guitarra-de-luca-stricagnoli/av-46318512

Mickmonaghan343 (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Your page was rejected so it is harder to resubmit. You are not required to use AfC process. You can move the page yourself to mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 23:48, 26 February 2019 (UTC) Mickmonaghan343 (talk) 00:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep as follows: Allow user to remove everything including the rejections and start over with an entirely new draft, and with instructions to discuss any future declines, and with instructions to reviewers not to Reject.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:40, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to throw some good faith out there, no objections. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate the patience you are showing here, doing this is like learning a new language and i am finding it tough. Mickmonaghan343 (talk) 10:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:TNT as recommended above. Charting in iTunes does not contribute to notability, so I would remove reception of that, and focus on notable charts (Billboard, UK Charts) and provide more sources that will meet WP:MUSICBIO  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you AngusWOOF, yes i will delete that chart info and replace it with another point on the above list, on the above advise from Robert should i leave the last draft as i think its up for review or do i make a new draft (draft 4 ) and Can i ask some experienced people here for help? i am not that good at this but a v good music tutor so if someone wanted to help me i could help them with that. if its allowed! Mickmonaghan343 (talk) 00:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi again, are we waiting on the first user Legacypac to get back to us, I had the last review turned down as it was still up for mfd, so just wanting to see should i keep editing in the above reasons for why it may pass wp music or start a new draft or wait to see what happens here, your patients is appreciated, Mickmonaghan343 (talk) 22:27, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
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