Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:MLA Ameer

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Consensus is to delete, but I am willing to restore if someone wants to take responsibility for fact checking and mainspacing this. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 03:47, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:MLA Ameer


This article has previously been deleted under several different guises, MLA AMEER and M.L.A. Ameer. As indicated there is no evidence that there is any Sri Lankan politician by the name of M. L. A. Ameer, it appears that the creator may have confused this with a local politician, A. M. Mahumud Lebbe, as once I provided that comment he blanked the entire page however the blanking was subsequently reverted by a third editor, as possible vandalism. Whilst the article is a draft there is no likelihood that it will ever satisfy notability requirements. Dan arndt (talk) 02:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 02:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Dan arndt (talk) 02:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - I have an odd question. If the subject does not exist, who is the author?  The author is listed as MLA Ameer.  So is the author masquerading as an unperson?  My first assumption is that this is an autobiography, the submission of which is discouraged.  But the nominator says that the subject may not exist.  I am puzzled.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:49, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , my apologies I meant MLA Ameer as a local politician doesn't exist. Will clarify my nomination. If the author of the article is in fact MLA Ameer then there is clearly a case of COI. Also the image that is used was uploaded by, which appears by their edits to potentially be the same as , which raises the issue of sockpuppetry.... Dan arndt (talk) 05:53, 15 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - It is very likely the draft's originator is confused about the name. The body text states that MLA Ameer is "is the son of Mahumud Lebbe (Manager)" which supports the idea that the person has confused this with A. Ameer Mahumud Lebbe.  We might consider renaming the draft to "A. Ameer Mahumud Lebbe", but given the confusion from the original author, I would not want rely on any of the information in the draft as being correct. -- Whpq (talk) 14:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. No prejudice against recreating a new article about the correct person from scratch, but I have to agree with Whpq that I'm not prepared to assume that just changing the article's name would instantly produce an article that was correct about everything else. Bearcat (talk) 21:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete and WP:Block per Competence is required, noting the recreations and introduction of DraftSpace linking in mainspace. Do not unblock without a conversation.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:50, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, I have also established a sock puppet investigation relating to this issue. Dan arndt (talk) 07:11, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I am 99% certain that M. L. A. Ameer and A. M. Mahumud Lebbe are the same person. I have found in editing several biographical articles for Sri Lankan Muslims that their names can be confusing. They do not have a set naming convention (e.g. given name, surname), they don't all have family names so some use their father's given name as their surname (similar to Tamils) and they often have several given names whose order can be transposed.


 * We know from this source that in May 2008 a A. Ameer Mahumud Lebbe was elected to represent Ampara District in the Eastern Provincial Council and that he was a member of the United People's Freedom Alliance.
 * This source shows that in September 2012 UPFA member A. Ameer Mahmood Lebbe was elected to represent Ampara District in the Eastern Provincial Council.
 * This source from April 2013 shows that there was an Eastern Provincial Council member called M. L. A. Ameer.
 * This source from July 2014 shows that there was an Eastern Provincial Council member called M. L. A. Ameer.
 * This source and this source from May 2015 show that there was Eastern provincial councillor called M. L. A. Ameer who was a member of the UPFA.
 * The EPC website shows that there is a Abdul Ameer Mohmood Lebbe is provincial councillor for Ampara District (image shows the same individual as in the draft article).


 * Therefore we can conclude that M. L. A. Ameer is short for Mohmood Lebbe Abdul Ameer.


 * Notability is established under WP:NPOL#1. Article needs to be cleaned up and moved to WP:MAINSPACE.--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
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