Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Mick Jones & All Star Band

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  speedy delete. The page was speedy deleted by User:Bbb23 per WP:G3, "Blatant hoax". North America1000 06:12, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Mick Jones & All Star Band

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I believe this is a hoax but if it is, it's not blatant enough for me to feel comfortable nominating the draft for speedy deletion. I've searched the articles of several of the supposed members of this group and none of them mention it, nor does the article about David Fishof, the supposed creator/producer of the group.

One would imagine that a supergroup which has involved the likes of Pete Townshend, George Harrison, Roger Daltrey, Phil Collins, and Sting would be all over Google but I can't find a thing. I'm well read on George Harrison in particular and don't recall ever hearing that he was a member of a supergroup other than the Traveling Wilburys. I think somebody's created a fantasy rival to Ringo Starr & His All-Starr Band here, to be honest. kingboyk (talk) 19:15, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not a snowball's chance in the underworld that a supergroup like this would escape all notice. -- Whpq (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTBURO that we were almost at WP:CSD., why not just wait another couple weeks and speedy it? Doug Mehus T · C  21:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * G13 would have been 5 months away and is a soft delete which is not what I am proposing.
 * It did occur to me that this probably wasn't worth posting as I was driving to the supermarket afterwards - and I wasn't going to turn round, come home and withdraw it :) Evidently you think it is worth commenting on although that appears to be quite a low bar...
 * I wanted to know if others believe this is a hoax and if it should be deleted as such. This was explained in the nomination. I'm sure we can expedite closure by speedy deleting it if and when.
 * I have no idea what you mean by 'delete per WP:NOTBURO'. --kingboyk (talk) 22:18, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you look at the page history. As kingboyk pointed out, we are not even remotely close to G13 territory.  Furthermore, we should not be keeping hoaxes around.  -- Whpq (talk) 23:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I did, but I just saw reversions and bot-like edits since September. There's differing interpretations, but a large plurality of Wikipedians regard such edits as non-qualifying to reset the G13 clock. Doug Mehus T · C  23:19, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, what I meant by "per WP:NOTBURO" is I got your intent for deletion, so was essentially saying "delete per G13 rationale even if not eligible for G13" due to not quite being 6 months yet. But, yes, you've got a good point re: WP:REFUND. Having said that, who were the editors? We could still have speedy deleted, and then salted the draft title at WP:ECP, eh? Doug Mehus T · C  23:22, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You are wandering off in pointless tangents for what should be a straightforward deletion of a hoax. -- Whpq (talk) 23:50, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with our deletion criteria for hoaxes, at MfD, so wasn't sure if we can delete per that rationale at MfD (certainly in the main namespace, we can, probably via speedy deletion). I haven't looked into it, so was just thinking of deleting per the G13 rationale as I don't see constructive editing going on even if not technically G13, potentially. In short, I trust 's judgment, and was recommending deletion on that basis—that is, no constructive editing happening. Doug Mehus T · C  23:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Having looked into it further, this does seem like a hoax, though I'd call more of a satirical essay. Google returns zero results for "Mick Jones & the All Star Band" or "Mick Jones and the All Star Band". So, I'm recommending that this be deleted per that rationale, per kingboyk's good judgment, and I endorse salt protecting at ECP if the deleting administrator so desires. Since it's modestly funny, I'm wondering if kingboyk or the deleting administrator would be amenable to allowing not undeletion but to e-mailing the text of this page, on request? Doug Mehus T · C  00:02, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as a hoax. It is hardly possible that something this big in music (that supposedly still exists!) would not have a single mention anywhere on the Internet besides this draft. Even if this group somehow does exist, I see no hope for establishment of notability. Glades12 (talk) 10:11, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
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