Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (2)

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  Redirect as per. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 17:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (2)


This draft is being tendentiously resubmitted. The subject is already the subject of a stub article, and any additional information should be added to the stub rather than resubmitted via AFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:48, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The subject covered by the article Nitesh Tiwari does not look to me to be the same person. It is a pity that the author of the draft is not communicating.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:32, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - The author of this draft will not be communicating, because the author of this draft has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think that they are the same person, an Indian film director. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Draft:Nitesh Tiwari & Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (2) look to me to be about the same Bollywood film music director.
 * Nitesh Tiwari looks to me to be about a different person of the same name, a Bollywood film director.
 * There are a few specific details provided for the two putatively different people, but other than name and Bollywood films, I see nothing specific in common. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:01, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * The authors of the two drafts appear to be the one person who engaged in sockpuppetry in response to your negative reviews. See  Sockpuppet investigations/Nitesh tiwari.
 * The mainspace article appears to have an entirely different history. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:05, 19 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment - I am aware that the mainspace article and the two drafts have different histories. That doesn't make them different people.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:24, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not convinced that they are the same person.
 * If they were the same people, the two drafts should both be redirected to the mainspace article. If they are not the same people, do nothing.  The draft authors have been blocked, wait for a possible unblock request.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:29, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - They are from different states. They really are different people.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:35, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - I do not withdraw this MFD. Deletion of Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (2) will still leave Draft:Nitesh Tiwari, which needs to be disambiguated from the mainspace article in case some uninvolved person makes the draft into an acceptable article.  The draft author is the subject of the draft article, and should not be editing the draft, but someone else may write about them.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:35, 19 October 2016 (UTC)


 * OK.
 * Move without redirect Draft:Nitesh Tiwari to Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (Bollywood music director) (over-disambiguated, but let's be more helpful in DraftSpace)
 * Redirect Draft:Nitesh Tiwari to Nitesh Tiwari
 * Redirect Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (2) to Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (Bollywood music director) (not obvious that that it is completely redundant, and it at least has improved formatting)
 * ... some rationale... I think DraftSpace is largely an invitation for driveby contributors to waste a lot of time.  (WP:ACTRIAL makes a lot more sense).  This time wasting of experienced editors' time is not alleviated by deleting.  It might be alleviated by having, for every mainspace title, the draftspace title redirecting to mainspace.  If the mainspace title exists, people should not be drafting the same thing in draftspace.  Making all these redirects, if not done as a lite and simple software trick, is probably way more wasted resources again, but as there is a history here, any visitor to Draft:Nitesh Tiwari should be sent to Nitesh Tiwari.  Create a note on Talk:Nitesh Tiwari: "Not to be confused with Draft:Nitesh Tiwari (Bollywood music director)".  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:02, 19 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.