Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Oba Dr. Francis Adefarakanmi Agbede

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. Any responsible editor is free to mainspace this if they please. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 13:50, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Oba Dr. Francis Adefarakanmi Agbede


Draft being tendentiously resubmitted after multiple declines and after Not Suitable for Wikipedia warning. Author is a single-purpose account who may be the subject or being paid by the subject. Only credible claim of significance is being a minor Nigerian monarch, which, in the absence of a notability guide, requires general notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:30, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Mainspace. Leader of an agricultural are of 200000 people is more than enough a claim of significance. Multiple sources verifying. Another is https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/02/19/ondo-new-monarch-gets-staff-of-office/amp/. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * A related article is Nigerian traditional rulers. I would recommend the author  to expand that article with mentions of the continuing symbolic practice of the past traditions of rule.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:28, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Nigeria is a Republic, not a monarchy. He leads no one. Legacypac (talk) 09:39, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Nigeria is full of monarchies. Afrika’s Giant nation, a multinational state as it is inhabited by over 500 ethnic groups, 186 million people. The monarchs may “lead” only as much as the queen of England, but they are real.  On the whole, Afrika is underrepresented in Wikipedia.  This is real, would have been added in 2002 if it were North American.  Mainspace. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The Queen of England and Queen of Canada has a significant constitutional role and many things are done in the name of the Queen or Crown. Not the same in a Republic. Legacypac (talk) 03:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per SmokeyJoe. Anyone may move this to the mainspace if they feel it is appropriate, but let's leave that as an editorial decision. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 17:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't see evidence that he is the leader of an agricultural area of 200,000. I don't even see that he is a monarch of such an area.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The draft claims that he is 13th Olowa of Igbara-Oke, the capital of Ifedore, the capital of the Local Government Council, with population of 176,372 in the year 2006. Exactly what is an Olowa, I'm not sure.  It is frequently translated as "monarch", which may be a tad grandiose.  Sometimes, "chieftain" is used.  It is a locally elected position, with nine electors, and appears to be an appointment of indeterminate duration, but not lifelong.  The candidate is selected for leadership and good personal qualities.  It sounds like a symbolic position that the local Rotary Club may elect.  His appointment attracted crowds, cameras, and national and international newspaper coverage.  There is something too this, from a culture perspective.  I note that Nigeria and Afrika are lagging in coverage due to systematic bias, such as very little electronic written media.  There is no case for deletion here.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:25, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Anyone may move this to the mainspace if they think it is appropriate. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Nigeria has many petty monarchs. In the absence of a notability guide, they are only notable if they pass general notability.  Robert McClenon (talk) 03:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
 * That will be a merging discussion, not a deletion discussion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Mainspace per . Will survive CSD, plausibly notable, we can let AfD decide if this is truly encyclopedia worthy if necessary (there's probably a clause in NBIO granting this notability). —Compassionate727 (T·C) 14:22, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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