Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Oman Aviation Group

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:53, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Oman Aviation Group


Submitted four times in two days, still fails WP:NCORP and probably WP:G11. 15-month old companies are almost never notable, and the references show it. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Also nominating the following as part of a walled garden created by now-indef-blocked socks.
 * Draft:Mustafa Alhinai
 * Draft:Mustafa M. Alhinai


 * Keep and Approve - I believe this article is worthy of keeping since the firm plays a significant role in the aviation industry and has thousands of articles written about it in Arabic and English content. Furthermore, the decliner is holding this page to a very strict standard that is not held to the majority of articles on Wikipedia (compare this article with: Aerfer, CFM International and IMAM (Industrie Meccaniche e Aeronautiche Meridionali) and you might notice the double standard!). The company has just started so it is natural not to expect critical/debatable cases, however, this article will form the basis for future editing as the company ages. Finally, critical thinking (secondary sources) can be noticed on this article, if you read: "which is, from an organizational perspective, a challenging task as it requires the company to proactively reach out to other economic sectors and requires interdisciplinary coordination between them." Furthermore, Robert McClenon and RoySmith I encourage you to read the discussion that took place between the editor and the decliner on the page User talk:Lopifalko section 117. You will understand that the constant edits were based on continuous recommendations given by the decliner to improve the page so I kindly ask you to refrain from making unnecessary false accusations about the editor receiving money to create pages. And, in this case, the company is obviously notable with significant mentioning by Bloomberg, Yahoo Finance, Reutors and Arabian Business. Best regards, -User:Ryan_99322 (talk) 11:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC) Sockpuppet vote stricken
 * Note incorrect link in signature: should be User:Ryanj 99322 -- RoySmith (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Concur with nominator. Rapid cycle of resubmission of mediocre drafts is often characteristic of undisclosed paid editing. Last sentence of draft is marketing buzzspeak.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve – I don't see how this company can be deemed non-notable. Although only 15 months old, it's a well funded, state-owned company that oversees the aviation industry of the entire country of Oman. There are more than 2,000 articles on Google News about the company, including from Reuters, Bloomberg and numerous major newspapers of the Middle East. And that doesn't even include sources in Arabic. -Zanhe (talk) 05:23, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - The company is notable, but changing my vote to delete because of the socking behaviour of the creator. -Zanhe (talk) 22:45, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment - Concur with addition of two versions of BLP of founder. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Salt as Extended-Confirmed in both article space and draft space. The company may be notable, but only a neutral editor is likely to write a neutral article about it.  The CEO may be notable (no judgment made on that), but only a neutral editor is likely to write a neutral article.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - No, "which is, from an organizational perspective, a challenging task as it requires the company to proactively reach out to other economic sectors and requires interdisciplinary coordination between them" isn't critical thinking; it is just marketing buzzspeak by sockpuppets. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:13, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and apply salt. As a reasonably active AfC reviewer, what really grinds my gears is quick resubmissions which either completely disregard the advice of reviewers or barely improve it.  Let's cut to the chase: it's unlikely this company is notable and whoever's behind the accounts has a serious and apparent conflict of interest due to their drafts being functionally equivalent to adverts.  If it is notable, the person behind these accounts has well enough proven that they are incapable of even trying or pretending to be neutral, so delete, salt and advising them to lodge a request at requested articles is the best way to go.  There's a big enough backlog already without all the corpspam.    SITH   (talk)   09:58, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * delete all artspam. Vast number if newly created accounts participating is noted.  Dloh Cier   ekim  20:45, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * As a side note, I recommend those involved with the subject(s) read and heed WP:COI and WP:PAID.  Dloh Cier  ekim  20:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all I've rejected Draft:Mustafa Alhinai twice already. The creator of these pages has engaged in rampant sockpuppetry including on this discussion (User:Ryanj 99322) and the socks have all been blocked. The creation of two drafts about the same person is problematic, and appears to be an attempt to circumvent prior reviews. One of the socks also removed the notice about the deletion discussion . Overall, its readily apparent this editor is trying to push an agenda, and is not really here to contribute to the project. To the drafts themselves; neither of the subjects is as yet notable. They might be in the future, but are not so now. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:17, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.