Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Palam Kalyanasundaram

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Delete. Ricky81682 (talk) 05:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Palam Kalyanasundaram


Resubmitted draft of a previously deleted article: Articles for deletion/Kalyanasundaram (2nd nomination). This draft appears to be moderately improved from the previous versions. Taking here for consensus on whether notability is now established. Jujutacular (talk) 18:44, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * delete it was a non-notable hoax when it was previously deleted, it is still a hoax. The 'man of the millenium' award mentioned in almost every reference seems to be in fact a vanity award that you pay for, and it doesn't award any money, rather you pay. That is merely one example of the grandiose and verifiably untrue claims that were made in social media shares and unquestioningly reprinted in various newspapers. The many other details referenced in various social media viral shares, such as that he met the US president are verifiably untrue. The detailed research looking at the claims made was deleted along with the previous existing article. I have no idea why anyone feels the need to reopen this discussion. Waste of time. -- ℕ  ℱ  20:19, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See fairly comprehensive analysis at User_talk:4letheia/Palam_Kalyanasundaram -- ℕ  ℱ  21:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per Nonsenseferret. I was about to accept the article on AfC, until the helper script informed me that it had been deleted before as a hoax. Myname is not dave (talk/contribs) 11:09, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete; can't fathom how this was previously kept. The subject is clearly non-notable. FoCuS contribs ;  talk to me!  01:11, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete This person is the subject of widespread mythology in India, but most of the principal claims made about him are either disproven or unlikely, or at best shaky in their sourcing. There are a few sources in what are normally considered to be reliable sources, but since they repeat the disproven information they cannot be relied upon. See the extensive research listed above. Previous articles about him are here: Kalyanasundaram, deleted three times and salted, and Palam Kalyanasundaram, deleted four times and salted. --MelanieN (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per Articles for deletion/Kalyanasundaram (2nd nomination). An article about the hoax/scam does not appear sourceable to reliable sources, it is just an internet / forum hoax / scam.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:01, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep, The article is changed a lot from the previous versions. It has more high quality citing sources than previous versions. However you can add more details. This is not hoax. You can re-visit the article if you need further details. I will also add more sources if required. The same article in Tamil -  பாலம் கல்யாணசுந்தரம், Bengali -  পালম কল্যাণসুন্দরম, Malayalam -  പി. കല്യാണസുന്ദരം. Most of the Indians know about him, however not all the sources are readily available in Internet. Thanks. --Dineshkumar Ponnusamy (talk) 18:19, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * can you answer some of the most basic questions? Which organization was it that awarded the "man of the millenium" - this is one the subject proudly boasts of, so if it cannot be substantiated together with the several million dollar prize he claims to have got with this title, then it undermines the truthfulness of all the claims he makes. Exceptional claims need exceptional evidence, but all the newspapers you cite have done nothing to investigate these social media claims. It reflects very badly on those local wikipedias that they are unable to ask basic questions and I dread to think what other articles they have accepted. -- ℕ  ℱ  19:18, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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