Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Robert Elizondo

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Killiondude (talk) 04:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Robert Elizondo


An unreferanced essay submitted 7 times in the last year. Given the gaps in submission dates it is likely this will continue until deleted at MfD because it will never get to G13. Legacypac (talk) 17:51, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * AfC needs to sort out how it deals with these. Begging the author to not resubmit, but giving him a big blue “resubmit” button! Stupid. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete as a useless draft that is not in the form of a Wikipedia article and is being tendentiously resubmitted by an unregistered editor. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - User:SmokeyJoe - I agree that there should be declines that do not encourage improvement. However, are you saying that because AFC has a problem, we should Keep this, or that we should delete it anyway?  By the way, I don't think that the problem is the blue Submit button, so much as the wording of the declines, all all of which encourage improvement.  Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I made a request to modify the wording on Template_talk:User sandbox to make it clearer what the submit button does. That will not help pages started in draft but it is a step in the right direction. Feel free to add your endorsements to the request. Legacypac (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Robert McClenon, I am not really arguing to "keep", but do note that this MfD is calling in a maintenance crew not associated with AfC to clean up waste leakage from pipes that we not designed for what is being put into them.  tendentiously resubmitting is an argument for WP:BLOCKing.  Are the requirements for blocking met?  No.  This one is an inept submission by an IP.  I wish that IPs could not start drafts.  When they do, create a draft or first edit, I wish that they would be auto-welcomed.  When they do submit a hopeless draft, I wish that it would be responded to with a big Declined and any contemplating fixed to remove the big blue "  " button.  A link to WP:N or something is probably a good idea.  It is not the fault of the reviewer.  I don't know who to blame or how to fix it.  At least I am not completely yelling into the dark, at least I know you are hearing me and we somewhat share each other's sympathies.  WP:ACTRIAL has proved, I think, that the notion that newcomers should do mainspace editing before starting their first page has merit.  There are smalls of intention to carry this logic to AfC.  Actaully, I am optimistic in the long term.
 * I just welcomed the IP with the welcome template that encourages registering. If forced to !vote, I'll say, Keep, but blank and replace with "Unsuitable draft declined."  Potentially, the author may return to learn, after 6 months it will be G13-ed.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as unsuitable and a time-sink jcc (tea and biscuits) 23:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - It's a memorial page, not a suitable draft. KJP1 (talk) 07:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
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