Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:State of the Nation Address 2015

Draft:State of the Nation Address 2015
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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  REDIRECT to State of the Nation Address (South Africa) (non-admin closure) Hasteur (talk) 18:39, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Time stamp for relisting. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Time stamp for relisting. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:20, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

One line non-G13 draft from February 2015 already covered by 2015 State of the Union Address. Ricky81682 (talk) 02:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC) Currently there are no other articles about specific annual State of the Nation Address (South Africa) and that article is quite short so this is unlikely be built out into an article. At best, it could be merged with the existing article. Legacypac (talk) 02:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as not useful. Even the title is wrong. Legacypac (talk) 02:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just blank. AfC / DraftSpace needs some process to deal with trivial things, a process that doesn't involve MfD. These worthless harmless pages do not need to be deleted. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:19, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * How about Move to mainspace, because this actually is the correct and verifiable name and date for the 2015 State of the Nation Address in South Africa? To help other people avoid making the same US-centric mistake, I'll go add the name of the relevant country to the text.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:55, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll agree with that. Sorry, it didn't even click to me that we're talking about another nation's SOTU address. I'll withdraw the nomination since the draft needs work. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's easy to make an honest mistake like that. If I were in charge of the world, every country would be required to have radically different names for everything, just to make our work easier.    WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:59, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * In case this isn't clear, I've withdrawn my nomination. There is however a delete vote here. Consensus should be obvious though. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:08, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * "Currently there are no other articles about specific annual State of the Nation Address (South Africa)", therefore is it a highly desirable topic and should not be deleted. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:24, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 17:35, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Relisting is a waste of time if the relister doesn't say anything.
 * Relisting as a means of advertising a discussion is a flawed idea.
 * Relisting has extended the bureaucratic restraint on fixing the title, and delays the G13 process. There never was any good reason to list this page. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:37, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Or you could just given an opinion here and someone could close this thing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:56, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me correct this. This is a draft where the nominator has withdrawn his nomination and suggested a merger into a mainspace article on the topic. Nevertheless, because in part of your strange blank vote, Legacypac's delete vote and the two merge votes, it's not clear what to do. Even when you have it in the bag, MFD is a nightmare. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:09, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That is a good point, a good correction. However, to nitpick, it does, to me, implicitly assume that something MUST be done, which is not true.  There is no harm in leaving it where it is.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It is a good topic, worthy of drafting. But currently it is far too drafty for mainspace.  I think it should be kept, renamed per above, moved to draftspace, and allowed to be treated as any drafty draft.  If the user returned, he may obtain a WP:REFUND at any time.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as there's hardly a large amount to suggest actually keeping. SwisterTwister   talk  07:06, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If someone wants to merge this ok, but it adds nothing to the other article except perhaps the ref. We have expended far more effort on this stub then the creater that spent about 60 seconds on it. Legacypac (talk) 08:06, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.