Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Tammy Van-Zant

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 01:02, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Tammy Van-Zant


I'm asking for a Snow delete on this--we have no specific speedy criterion and it's been hard to word one, so we have to do it here.  DGG ( talk ) 04:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Either speedy delete G11 noting the complete lack of suitable sources, or redirect to Ronnie Van Zant where the subject is already discussed. I favour the second.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The purpose of the redirect is to tell the author where improvements may be made. On redirecting, do you think the history qualifies for a revdelete?  If not, why waste time by not simply redirecting?  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Snow delete. Absolutely no encyclopedic value. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Ronnie Van Zant where the subject is already discussed per SmokeyJoe. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 15:28, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I considered a redirect, but I don't think we should make a practice of making a redirect for every child of a notable person. The only reason to list her is the statement she recorded a song in tribute to her father, but there's no information if it was ever published. Assuming that it was released on YouTube or equivalent, that's still not enough reason--anyone can release anything in such a manner. To use an analogy from my own field, consider notable scientists. Frequently,  one or more of their children also reeive Ph.D.Some very few will be notable also; some may be significant to some lesser extent, and merit redirects, but the great majority of them will not. WP is not a genealogical database. The policy remains NOT DIRECTORY.    DGG ( talk ) 18:24, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * If this were to be a mainspace redirect, that would be a reasonable argument, though I think there is enough information (i.e. "He was the father of Tammy Van Zant and Melody Van Zant", "The couple had a daughter named Tammy, before divorcing in 1969; Tammy would later go on to become a musician in her own right", and "Ronnie's daughter Tammy, who was only 10 years old when he died, dedicated the album title track, 'Freebird Child' as well as the music video to her father in 2009") to warrant one in this case. That aside, and more to the point, converting this to a draftspace redirect merely implies that someone has already started/tried the topic and it is not worth drafting right now (not that one should be created for every child of a notable person), which is a good message to send. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 18:46, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Snow Delete per DGG and Kudpung. A draftspace redirect serves no value but to help preserve attribution.  Legacypac (talk) 23:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * That's wrong. A redirect does more than preserve attribution.  A redirect tells any future contributor interested in the topic where to go in mainspace to add information.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. We don't need redirects for every child, notability is not inherited. --  P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:48, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No one has (very likely) ever suggested creating a draftspace redirect for every child of covered subjects. This is not the mainspace; a draftspace redirect merely discourages drafting the topic (and better highlights that someone else has tried), which I believe is something we all agree on. — Godsy (TALK CONT ) 20:56, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
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