Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:The Bucket Wars

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Clearly, entirely unsuitable for mainspace. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 20:44, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:The Bucket Wars


minecraft story. Clear U5 if in userspace Legacypac (talk) 09:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Harmless worthless made up mincraft story.  I think these things could be speedy blanked on sight, no mfd fanfare.  I like the recent idea that submitted drafts, like this, would enable the CSD#A* criteria, which would make this CSD#A11 eligible. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed - which is one of the reasons I brought it here. There is stuff we should just CSD ASAP to discourage the submission of more of it. Legacypac (talk) 11:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Agree, that non-serious not-even-funny submissions should be removed ASAP. A curt response is best for knowingly disruptive behaviours. This could be by speedy blanking, it could be by speedy deletion, as long as it is speedy.  The wordy template saccharine decline message is feeding the trolls.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete - But I strongly disagree with speedy blanking of stupid stuff like this? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:08, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It could be blanked, but I would prefer it to be speedy eligible. CSD#A11 modified for draftspace, for example.  It should be disposed of quietly per WP:DENY.  Your opposition to blanking is reason to push for speedying.  I think MfDing stupid stuff like this, consuming more time and space, giving more attention to the attention seeking, is the worst of outcomes, short of leaving it live.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I think that I agree, User:SmokeyJoe, if you are saying that speedy criteria should be available for pages that are submitted to AFC. If the author nominates the page to be an article, they should also be deemed to be nominating it to be speedied as if it were an article.  This one would be A11.  If that is what you are saying, I agree.  Robert McClenon (talk) 02:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Robert McClenon, see Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - See my comments agreeing with both User:SmokeyJoe and User:Legacypac. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Greenwich Music School similar problem, but this time failing WP:NCORP. When we come to an Article Creation Request on a page that does not fit any existing Gx criteria (not copyvio, spam, attack etc), maybe we should simply accept it so it can be reviewed by other editors against mainspace criteria. That is what the page creator wants right? Legacypac (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac] - No, no, no. I have been saying and will say again that moving pages into article space that are not ready for article space is a terrible idea.  We should treat article space as the crown jewel of Wikipedia.  Sometimes the page creator does want a submission moved into article space for review, and sometimes they don't, but (because sometimes they are just clueless), but moving something into article space that will need to be tagged for A7 or any of the other Ax criteria in order to tag it is a terrible idea.  It pollutes article space, even if only temporarily, with stuff that doesn't belong in it.  It sometimes seems that you, User:Legacypac, take a proprietary interest in draft space and want to get things out of it that don't belong.  Getting things out of draft space by moving them to dev/null is fine, but to article space?  Please.  Move to article space if ready for article space, or at least ready to be worked on in article space.  Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't want it in article space - it's a what if. Legacypac (talk) 22:48, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.