Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Tolexo

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was  Delete. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 09:57, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Tolexo


A page about a company that fails WP:CORP. Editor has submitted the page four times in two days with very little improvement. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * All references are sponsored promotion in the style of releases paradying news. I see no chance for this company to pass WP:CORP.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Got asked for help by the creator of this article on IRC. User:Sulfurboy, you can't use WP:VAGUEWAVE, please explain why the article doesn't fulfill WP:CORP. Also, User:SmokeyJoe, why do you think the articles are sponsored promotion and are not reliable? Please explain to me. Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 04:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It is very difficult actually. Some business publications declare that their articles are paid, but many don't, and if they are paid or sponsored then they most assuredly fail as "Independent sources".  If the company advertises in the publication, then I argue that any published article is not independent, although others may argue differently.  In the end, it can come down to a personal assessment of the writing style, the information being presented, and the question "why is the publisher publishing this?".  If the article reads like a news and review in one, but contains no caveats or negatives in review, then it is pretty good to assume that it is a sponsored article.  Examining all the referenced articles, excepting one that is a broken link, I judge that all the articles are promotional, that this company is actively doing subtle self-promotion.
 * As a consequence of the difficult subjectivity of the source analysis for promotion for companies, it is better to take the line that the company fails WP:CORP unless you can clearly argue that is passes WP:CORP, WP:CORP as written to the letter.
 * Also note that WP:CORP is not necessaily a requirement for a page in DraftSpace. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Please help me to understand why Tolexo doesn't fulfills the WP:GNG? All the reference added here are from reliable resources here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saumya.omer (talk • contribs) 05:01, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Sulfurboy It's too early for this business to have any caveats or negative reviews. People are still evaluating the services since it does not have much competition in the market and caters to a different segment of audience. Maybe that is the reason that the references were not able to pull any negative aspect out of Tolexo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saumya.omer (talk • contribs) 07:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The issue is not primarily whether it fails WP:CORP, the issue is the flood of submissions without improvement or seeking help until now. If the author is actually showing good faith now into improving the article then I'm fine with this MfD being closed. But even with improvement, I highly doubt this article will pass notability concerns to make the mainspace at this time or anytime soon. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete It fails WP:CORP and I'm pretty sure this also compiled by WP:TOOSOON. Per as this deletion discussion, I'm declining the submission made by until this decision of deletion is finalised. ♔ MONARCH  Talk to me  04:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.