Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Vladimir Hirsch

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  keep. RL0919 (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Vladimir Hirsch


User recreated a deleted article. User who created the article knows the subject of the article personally, clearly in breach of WP:COI and WP:AfC guidelines. See [] User is friendly outside of Wikipedia with banned User:Jan Blanicky and personally acts as a meatpuppet in many instances.(Banned user created the first iteration of the article, and both versions are practically identical, user also took the photo of the subject.) Article is impossible to source as all sources used are either, music blogs, self-published sources, unreliable, etc. - R9tgokunks   ⭕  07:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep and Tag as having a Conflict of Interest. This is a draft and will be reviewed by a neutral reviewer.  The nominator is making a good-faith error in nominating this draft, but needs an explanation of Wikipedia deals with conflict of interest .  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Robert McClenon says it well.  The purpose of AFC is to give guidance in situations such as this.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:18, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment -, . This article was already deleted once. I've dealt with this guy and his friend who is a serial abuser of Wikipedia and is permanently banned, and as shown before, acts as a meatpuppet for them.(User:Jan Blanicky, who created the first iteration of the article, and both versions are practically identical, Jan Blanicky even took the added photo of the subject.) I confirmed that they both personally know each other through the subject of the article and... his group of his friends goes around Wikipedia trying to add their friends into Wikipedia and also changing "Czech Republic" to "Czechia." They are all apart of an organization that does this latter thing. Anyway, it is literally impossible to source this article, the subject is not notable nor are there verifiable sources for him. The creator decided that numerous music blogs and discogs and allmusic and the artists own website were reliable sources, which they clearly are not, and are all against wikipedia policy. This should be a no-brainer to delete as there are literally no reliable sources.- R9tgokunks   ⭕  00:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Question for User:R9tgokunks - What was the previous name of the article when it was deleted? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:36, 22 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep It looks like a private war to me. Vladimir Hirsch is one of the leading musicians in the industrial music and well known in the scene, articles about him exist in other languages. I don't see any reason for "punishment" for his engagement in a completely different topic. CSCPHERO (talk) 07:40, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Judging from the Czech article there seems to be several reliable sources in Czech. AfC can deal with the COI appropriately and for the other issues mentioned MfD is the wrong place to discuss it. Trialpears (talk) 12:43, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.