Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Why I woke up today

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:26, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Why I woke up today


No article potential, almost nonsense Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 22:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete as vandalism. No one should start such obviously useless drafts Legacypac (talk) 23:48, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Trash, but I couldn't call it vandalism. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 23:50, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per Legacypac. Vandalism.  Obviously and deliberately inappropriate means vandalism.  —SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:17, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Robert McClenon is right, the user edited their sandbox, and we don't know that they knowingly submitted nonsense into the AfC system. User:I dream of horses should not have moved it to draftspace.  Why did Jjjjjjdddddd feel the need to nominate it here instead of letting take the G13 path?  Move back to User:Karthik sivagami/sandbox and blank.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:21, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I partly agree and partly disagree. As I said, I don't consider it vandalism, because it was in a magic sandbox.  However, I will defend the action of User:I dream of horses in moving it to draft space.  The AFC tools strongly encourage and assist the move to draft space, and they did the right thing in moving it, unless we change the tools.  User:SmokeyJoe - I have complained in the past about dumping on the reviewers, and saying that Idoh should not have moved it, when the tool encourages, is dumping on the reviewer.  Please don't do that.  We can't treat users as if they need to be protected from their own mistakes.  If a user submits to AFC, either they saw the big blue bar, or they did something even more direct.  The user wasn't misbehaving by creating the stupid test page, but they were misbehaving by submitting it.  If they didn't knowingly submit nonsense, then they ignorantly and negligently submitted nonsense.  Either way, delete it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:39, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. Idoh shouldn't feel dumped upon because I think non-drafts should not be moved to draftspace.  My wish is that a WikiElf would improve the AfC template to make it barf when it finds itself on a page titled "sandbox", and make it stop autocategorising AfC-tagged sandbox, so that we stop getting non-draft sandboxes sent to draftspace and later sent to MfD.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:46, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The one problem I have with having the AfC template "barf" is that it may end up confusing an incompetent editor. I have been emailed by editors who couldn't figure out talk pages. That's the sort of editor I'm worried about. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - My father had a story about a legal case that started when an employee of a boat threw trash off the boat. It landed on a person on another nearby lower boat.  The person shook himself off and the trash landed in the river.  The owner of the larger boat was fined for littering a navigable waterway.  The fact that his trash hadn't landed in the river, but on a person, was not a defense.  Once you throw trash, you are responsible for where it lands.  The originator created trash, which is his right.  He then threw it to the AFC community, and we can zap it.  Robert McClenon (talk) 01:39, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not vandalism as such, but a test edit that would have gone G13 bye-bye except for being dragged into this discussion. Go ahead and put it out of its misery.  Robert McClenon (talk) 15:59, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - Just to make it clear. This was not vandalism, because it was a test edit in a sandbox.  It was then moved to draft space, which was a valid action by the reviewer after it was submitted to AFC.  The submission to AFC is what was inappropriate, and would have started the G13 timer except that we came in.  So delete.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for coming to my defense. I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @  02:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Doesn't help or relate to Wikipedia goals, Someone put it out of its misery. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:35, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete at this point to get the page out of the queue. Moving back to the creator's userspace might in some ways be preferable, but would probably be only a gesture as this is his or her only edit and is from months ago. Newyorkbrad (talk) 07:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.