Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Glorified navbox microportals for universities

 __NOINDEX__
 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 14:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Glorified navbox microportals for universities

 * Article list <6 pages, including stubs


 * Article list 6–10 pages, including stubs


 * Article list 11–15 pages, including stubs


 * Article list 16–20 pages, including stubs
 * — 16 non-stub articles, plus 1 stub or duplicate
 * — 10 non-stub articles, plus 10 stubs or duplicates
 * — 12 non-stub articles, plus 5 stubs or duplicates
 * — 18 non-stub articles, plus 8 stubs or duplicates
 * — 20 non-stub articles, plus zero stubs or duplicates
 * — 18 non-stub articles, plus 2 stubs or duplicates
 * — 16 non-stub articles, plus 1 stub or duplicate
 * — 10 non-stub articles, plus 5 stubs or duplicates
 * — 15 non-stub articles, plus 5 stubs or duplicates


 * Article list 21–25 pages, including stubs
 * — 14 directly-relevant non-stub articles, plus five on University Associations, plus 2 stubs
 * — 16 non-stub articles, plus 8 stubs or duplicates
 * — 14 non-stub articles, plus 7 stubs or duplicates
 * — 17 non-stub articles, plus 7 stubs or duplicates
 * — 14 non-stub articles, plus 2 stubs or duplicates and ~6 duplicates
 * — 16 non-stub articles, plus 7 stubs or duplicates
 * — 19 non-stub articles, plus 5 stubs or duplicates

Each of these portals:
 * has less than 20 unique non-stub articles within its scope, which is below even the risibly low minimum of 20 advocated by the portal fans at WP:PORTG. Some of them are so disgracefully short of the minimum that their creation was utterly reckless
 * was created on 7 September 2018 by the portalspammer @The Transhumanist in an apprent autmoated or semi-automated process consisting solely of entering {{subst:quick portal}}, and saving.
 * draws its article list solely from a single navbox. This makes each of these portals merely a fork of the navbox, with much less utility than the navbox because:
 * the navbox displays a full list of the articles, but the portal displays only one page at a time.
 * the navbox should be present on every page in the set. The portal always requires navigation to a separate page.
 * The topic's main page works much better as a navigational hub, because it includes:
 * both the topic navbox and any related navboxes
 * A full summary of the topic rather than an excerpt of the lede.

It is clear that little or no attention was paid to the drive-by-creation or maintenance of these microportals. All of these portals were subjects of WP:AWB or bot edits after creation, but less than five of these portals have non-automated edits, all trivial. The two-and-a-half hours which it has taken me to assess these microportals is far more time than their creator spent in making spamming them.

Note that this nomination is only about navigation between Wikipedia articles. It is not in any way a judgement on the significance or quality of the universities themselves. Many of these 41 universities have exceptional academic reputations, and the list includes three of the world's oldest universities: Greifswald, Rostock and Turin, all founded in the 15th century.

The problem here is simply that these automated spam portals are an impediment to navigation, luring readers onto pages which are of significantly less use for navigation than the head article.

It may be that in some cases a properly-curated portal could be created on some of these topics, which added significant value beyond the navbox. I have not attempted to check that, but I think it is very unlikely, because Wikipedia simply does not have extensive coverage of every single university. Portals exist to provide navigation across broad scope topics, and only in very rare cases is there enough coverage to require a portal. Narrow-topic, automated spam portals such as this are simply a waste of readers' time. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:04, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete: none of these appear to meet WP:POG, they were created seemingly automatically so should be up for deletion automatically. This is of course without prejudice to thoughtful recreation.    SITH   (talk)   14:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all of these. Not broad enough subject areas. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:37, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete 


 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:39:59Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Portsmouth
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:41:40Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of the Western Cape
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:12:06Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Craiova
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:25Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of South Africa
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T23:31:10Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Jagiellonian University
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:18Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Salford
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:09Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Regina
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:24:55Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Karachi
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:00Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Kragujevac
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:02Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Prince Edward Island
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T23:32:08Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Transylvania University
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:11:40Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Bergen
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:11:45Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Brighton
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:11:51Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Calcutta
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:12:25Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Essex
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:54Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Freiburg
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:26:01Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Greifswald
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:26:11Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Hertfordshire
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:26:13Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Hong Kong
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:24:50Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Johannesburg
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:16Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Rostock
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:44Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Sussex
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:49Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Tasmania
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:41:14Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Turin
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:41:19Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Wales
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T23:30:34Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Baldwin Wallace University
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:11:43Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Bonn
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:59Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Gothenburg
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:26:03Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Guelph
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:11Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Mannheim
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:21Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Montenegro
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:42Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Surrey
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:41:27Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Westminster
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:03Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Puerto Rico
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:11:36Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Bath
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:25:56Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Glamorgan
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:26:10Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Heidelberg
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:33Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Southampton
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:14Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Rochester
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:40:56Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Toledo
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-07T20:41:20Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:University of Warwick


 * Pldx1 (talk) 16:31, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all BHG spent too much time pulling this nom together. WP:X3 Legacypac (talk) 17:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. Feezo (send a signal &#124; watch the sky) 19:36, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete All - As BHG says, all created on one day in mass. Deletion is being considered more deliberately than creation.  It is the creation that was the attempted fait accompli''.  No need for portals except either that creating portals is fun or some idea that portals are needed to satisfy some ill-defined need.  Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.