Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Los Angeles glorified navbox microportals

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 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Los Angeles glorified navbox microportals

 * Article list <10 pages


 * Article list 11–15 pages

Each of these portals:
 * is for a district of the city of Los Angeles, for which we already have Portal:Los Angeles
 * has less than 16 articles within its scope, which is below even the really low minimum of 20 advocated by the portal fans at WP:PORTG
 * was created within a 3-hour space around midday UTC on 1 September 2018 by the portalspammer @The Transhumanist (TTH) in an apparent automated or semi-automated process
 * has had no subsequent manual edits, but multiple AWB edits by TTH, and once by User:Dreamy Jazz Bot to add a cleanup category,
 * draws its article list solely from a single navbox. This makes each of these portals merely a full-screen version of the navbox, with much less utility than the navbox because:
 * the navbox displays a full list of the articles, but the portal displays only one page at a time.
 * the navbox should be present on every page in the set. The portal always requires navigation to a separate page.
 * The topic's main page works much better as a navigational hub, because it includes:
 * both the topic navbox and any related navboxes
 * A full summary of the topic rather than an excerpt of the lede.

It is clear that little or no editorial judgement was made in the drive-by-creation of these microportals. They are an impediment to navigation. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:58, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * PS I have removed from this nomination 6 portals which were added without discussion by @Legacypac, because 4 of them did not fit the criteria set out in the nomination and two of them were already being discussed at another MFD (which was blatant WP:FORUMSHOPping).  The nomination has now been restored to its original state.
 * Consensus-formation is severely undermined by forumshopping. The necessary basis of trust between editors is destroyed where a nomination is demonstrably untrue, and the result of Legacypac's additions here was to make the nomination statement a falsehood. I have warned @Legacypac that this was highly disruptive conduct which should not be repeated. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:03, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all, unpopular and useless. CoolSkittle  (talk) 00:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete through Wilmington (note in case list is extended). Too many pointless micro-portals.  Robert McClenon (talk) 00:23, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - By the way, there are at least 6 Wilmingtons in England, and 17 in the US, and 1 in Australia, but we are only incidentally talking about Wilmington. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per clear results at Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods and for completeness I tacked on two more I bundled into another grouping of small cities in California portal spam by TTH. I've also added four that were missed in BHG's sweep. The history of Portal:Los Angeles is interesting - TTH created it in Sept 2018 on top of a redirect to Portal:Greater Los Angeles against the Wikiproject consensus to move the page. Legacypac (talk) 00:57, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * @Legacypac I have removed the pages which you added.  I have not checked whether they actually meet all the criteria set out, and in any case the nomination was big enough as is. Many previous MFDs have been disrupted by your addition of multiple extra pages which radically changed the scope of the nomination, and I don't want to risk that happening here. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * As noted above, I have now checked them all, and I find that none of the 6 pages should have been added. Full explanation at User talk:Legacypac.  -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Fine - nominated here: Miscellany_for_deletion Legacypac (talk) 18:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete this mess. Feezo (send a signal &#124; watch the sky) 05:44, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete 
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T11:25:14Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Encino, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T11:28:24Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Holmby Hills, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T11:52:49Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Northridge, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:03:01Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Reseda, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:09:50Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Studio City, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:11:00Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Sylmar, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:11:58Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Tarzana, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:24:50Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Venice, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T14:10:22Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Westchester, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:28:42Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Woodland Hills, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T10:47:16Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Chatsworth, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T11:50:39Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:North Hollywood, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T11:54:15Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:23:07Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Van Nuys, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:26:46Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:West Hills, Los Angeles
 * - An automated portal, created 2018-09-01T12:28:09Z, only worth of an automated deletion: Portal:Wilmington, Los Angeles
 * Pldx1 (talk) 11:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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