Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Mixed bag of group portals

Portal:BBC & Co.
 __NOINDEX__
 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was:  delete the following: Portal:Motörhead, Portal:Linkin Park, Portal:Slipknot, Portal:Oracle Corporation, Portal:SNK, Portal:Lenovo as uncontested apart from procedural grounds. Please renominate the rest individually. (I'm not going to action this debate for another day or two to hear any possible objections). MER-C 10:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)


 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.
 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.
 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.
 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.
 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.
 * – (View MfD)
 * – Withdrawn.


 * – Withdrawn.

All MfDs for company portals: 

This should be the remaining company portals. I have also included Portal:Motörhead, Portal:Linkin Park, and Portal:Slipknot. Unlike previous nominations, all but two have been maintained in the past (the exceptions are Portal:Lenovo and Portal:Oracle Corporation). The sole basis for the nomination is the limited scope of these portals.

I will begin notifying the creators of these portals to this nomination. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:02, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure why I was notified. I didn't create any of these portals.-- Auric   talk  00:36, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You made four edits to Portal:Nintendo last year that did not seem semi-automated, and I had a liberal mindset for who received notifications. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 01:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all as useless crap that no-one sees. CoolSkittle  (talk) 01:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not a lieigimate reason for deletion.Rillington (talk) 18:28, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per the results on my previous batches of company portals. Update: I'm fine with any additional company portals added to this nomination as my logic applies to all companies. The topical portals like Portal:Software, Portal:Television etc cover these businesses. Legacypac (talk) 02:08, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment – Did the previous batches of company portals consist of all automated portals? Was it a mix of automated and hand-created portals? I ask because people have been opining for deletion simply based upon portals being based upon automation, but some of these in this nomination are not, such as the BBC, Google, Nintendo and Sega portals. North America1000 04:08, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep BBC. There's good coverage of just the huge number of BBC television programmes, not to mention the rest of the BBC's activities. There was a dedicated Wikiproject, though it is now denoted semi-active. The present portal has 10 selected articles, 9 buildings, 25 DYKs & 12 images (despite the inherent copyright issues), but for some reason only a single bio; there's certainly room for expansion. The apparently broader Portal:Television in the United Kingdom is much newer and less developed, and if the two are merged BBC's history should be preserved. No opinion on the others (I've not examined them). Espresso Addict (talk) 05:07, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I think lack of maintenance can not be a parameter to discriminate between portals to be deleted or not. In that case, they have to propose portals for updating, not deletion. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 11:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with both comments. Rillington (talk) 18:28, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete them all
 * - Old portal, 82 subpages, created 2006-10-13 08:32:51 by User:Unisouth. No portal on a single company Portal:BBC
 * - Old portal, 34 subpages, created 2007-07-08 21:25:49 by User:Arundhati lejeune. No portal on a single company Portal:Motörhead
 * - Old portal, 34 subpages, created 2008-09-06 16:40:39 by User:Elvenwong50. No portal on a single company Portal:Linkin Park
 * - Old portal, 14 subpages, created 2008-04-18 07:39:42 by User:Ultraviolet scissor flame. No portal on a single company Portal:Sony
 * - Old portal, 110 subpages, created 2009-08-11 14:12:23 by User:Wild mine. No portal on a single company Portal:Google
 * - Old portal, 36 subpages, created 2008-02-01 05:07:57 by User:Blackngold29. No portal on a single company Portal:Slipknot
 * - Old portal, 25 subpages, created 2012-10-21 20:54:36 by User:Georgethewriter. No portal on a single company Portal:SNK
 * - Old portal, 31 subpages, created 2006-06-21 21:48:09 by User:Elven6. No portal on a single company Portal:Sega
 * - Old portal, 61 subpages, created 2006-04-25 02:17:09 by User:Tree Biting Conspiracy. No portal on a single company Portal:Nintendo
 * Moreover, saying there's certainly room for expansion is nothing but the usual fallacy. The question is not about the possibility of some entity Who Will Come From the Stars and do the job in some unpredictable future. A portal like Portal:BBC is supposed to be a useful navigation tool. Here, be means being right now. And this is blatantly false. User:Espresso Addict tells us I've not examined the other portals. At facial value, this is surely true. But this seems to imply: "I've carefully examined the BBC portal". And this is less likely.  In fact, the last editorial edits to the snippets of this portal are either 2008 or 2010 (see below). We even have this marvelous one: Specially built for the BBC and opened in 1960, BBC Television Centre in London is home to much of the BBC's television output. Studio TC1, at 995 square metres, is the second largest television studio in Britain. The corporation has plans to dispose of the building by 2015. We should have plans to dispose of this kind of cadavers before 20015.


 * BBC/Selected article/01 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/02 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/03 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/04 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/05 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/06 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/07 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/08 2008
 * BBC/Selected article/09 2009
 * BBC/Selected article/10 2009
 * BBC/Selected building/01 2010 ... by 2015
 * BBC/Selected building/02 2011
 * BBC/Selected building/03 2010
 * BBC/Selected building/04 2008
 * BBC/Selected building/05 2008
 * BBC/Selected building/06 2008
 * BBC/Selected building/07 2008
 * BBC/Selected building/08 2010
 * BBC/Selected building/09 2010
 * BBC/Selected building/10 2013
 * BBC/Selected building/11 2011
 * BBC/Selected picture/01 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/02 2010
 * BBC/Selected picture/03 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/04 2010
 * BBC/Selected picture/05 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/06 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/07 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/08 2010
 * BBC/Selected picture/09 2008
 * BBC/Selected picture/10 2010
 * BBC/Selected picture/11 2014
 * BBC/Selected picture/12 2010

One estimate I made put the total number of individual portal nominations at 1,588 (faulty number because that includes redirects). The ones that get bundled are both good and bad. It saves the community time from rehashing the same arguments over and over again, but it can come at the expense of a more in-depth view. When the guidelines are put forward, I suspect many of these bundled ones will be the first to get undeleted per the criteria we come up with. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 02:25, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Pldx1 (talk) 12:24, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually I spent at least 16 minutes assessing this portal, probably more (I open all MfD'd portals that aren't clearly just automated in tabs and look at them all before starting to comment); I wish I could spend more time but there are so many suggested for deletion these weeks that there aren't enough waking hours in the day to do a decent job. I noted that I hadn't looked at the others at all for the closing admin because they should not assume that I endorse deletion of the others. I looked briefly at the set of article extracts, the history and the code, and paged through the building images (where this mistake was found) to check none of the images had been deleted but didn't read the captions. If one needs to spend more time than that on individual nominations within a bulk set, then the rate of deletion nomination needs to slow right down to make that at all feasible.
 * Your (presumably bot-generated) dates are of limited value; there's no obvious reason necessarily to change the caption of, say, a picture added in 2008. Generally it still depicts now what it depicted then, though people die and buildings change in use, and possibly more thought needs to be taken as to how to future proof them. (XXX at yyy date remains true, even if the building burns down or the subject dies.)
 * I have corrected the specific error that you noted, thanks for drawing it to the community's attention -- but I'm not planning to do any major work on any portal up for deletion, and certainly not in the present climate where it's likely to be deleted even if one were to succeed in bringing it up to a high standard within the time frame. There needs to be a mechanism for advertising under-maintained portals for a period before suggesting deletion, so that maintainers can be sought; akin to the two-stage featured article review process. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:33, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have no clue as to whether you would be surprised by this statement, but I would agree with you for most of what you said. I have pretty meticulously reviewed these portals before I nominated them. I did not nominate these portals because they were unmaintained. In fact, I stated as much in my nomination: The sole basis for the nomination is the limited scope of these portals. On the portal issue, I consider myself a moderate. I very clearly wanted to maintain Portal:Webcomics, but it was deleted nonetheless. However, the speed to which things are being nominated is not the issue. It is mostly the fact we have no clear guidelines for this matter. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:58, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, . I don't agree that the BBC has limited scope, nor do I think it is similar to the companies with which you have bundled it. I do agree that clear guidelines would be helpful; I feel this mad scramble to delete everything in sight under any available rationale, when no-one knows or agrees (or in some cases cares) where the boundaries lie, is contrary to the spirit of Wikipedia and counter to the RfC last year, which (whatever it did conclude) did not conclude that all portals should be deleted willy-nilly. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:05, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what to say to that, . Portal:CERN was deleted with in the first batch of company portals. One of the ones I bundled, Portal:Google, has been almost consistently maintained since its creation in 2009. I put up some of our highest quality portals if you ask me. The way Portal:Nintendo used to look was great. I think that Portal:Microsoft has a breathtakingly stunning design. If there was ever a good group to be with, I would say it was a combination of the ones I nominated.
 * Wasn't CERN automated from a navbox though? The MfD states it was. These are not. If I had more time & energy I'd review more of these; Google in particular might possibly be a sufficiently broad topic because of their AI research. But there's just too many this week, and I don't quite feel strongly enough atm.
 * I wouldn't hold your breath either for guidelines or for undeletions. I suspect it is more likely that the entirety of portal space (save the main page & portal current events) will go. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment: I added Portal:Microsoft and Portal:Apple Inc. . &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 17:23, 22 April 2019 (UTC) + 17:29, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging users for comment. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 17:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Those can be deleted too. CoolSkittle  (talk) 17:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * On strike. Adding new lines to an already released list is a repeated annoyance. This is the reason why I systematically add the name of the portal to each and every evaluation I made. Nothing else to add. Pldx1 (talk) 17:43, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment on additions. Purely on a procedural note, adding new items to a bundle after the first flush of people have commented is disruptive, even where participants are pinged: most people read MfD from the top, and ignore entries that they have already checked. Espresso Addict (talk) 21:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This has been noted for the future. My apologies to both of you for the disruption., I have stricken the relevant additions and withdrawn those nominations. Sorry again, &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 21:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete all - Per WP:ADPROMO and WP:NPOV individual Companies portals are a tricky topic, better to deal with companies only in Portal:Companies. Portals of individual companies are also narrow topic like biographies portals.Guilherme Burn (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not convinced the BBC, whilst technically a corporation under a Royal charter and with its own governing board/trust, as a largely (essentially) tax-funded national broadcasting body that creates/broadcasts free public service television & radio, falls squarely under the definition of "company". I don't know if there are any direct equivalents in other countries? As the oldest broadcaster in the world, and one of the largest, it has a special significance. And I know "I like it" arguments aren't particularly helpful but... as a Brit, it feels borderline offensive to suggest deletion of something related to the BBC when I wouldn't feel at all bothered by such a suggestion relating to a hundred-year-old British company. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:56, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Portal:BBC – Meets Portal/Guidelines per overall content availability, for example, as demonstrated by Category:BBC and subcategories therein. I also disagree with the notion above of deletion per "no portal on a single company", because it's personal opinion, and not based upon portal guidelines. North America1000 07:33, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Portal:BBC – Agreed. Rillington (talk) 18:28, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Further comment. Those advocating for deleting all individual company portals in favour of the top-level one might care to assess Portal:Companies, with its sparse & in some cases peculiar selection of articles, dull design and run of missing reference errors at the bottom. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:59, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Portal:BBC, like any other portal, should help to browse on a particular subject. But the basic fact is that nobody cares about this portal. The readers don't care: [|BBC wmflabs] says 7285 daily views for BBC, 28 daily views for Portal:BBC. The writers don't care: most of the snippets are from 2008, and there is no new editorial content since 2010 (except from the sole and only biography of this portal, who presented Sport on Friday in the 1990s, death 1999, snippet added 2018). Arguing there is overall content availability only underlines the fact that this dead portal is indeed a cadaver instead of complying with the portal must be maintained and serve a useful purpose as stated in §2 of WP:Portal/Guidelines. Once again, delete this not useable navigation tool. Or rename it: "In Memoriam BBC 2008, When We Were Younger". I will not comment about "no portal on a single company" since this disaster is surely not an advertisement for the said company . Pldx1 (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Procedural Close - This train is off the rails. I waited to review this and it is now too much of a wreck to review.  became an unpleasant statistical task to review.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:27, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * To sum things up, the main contention is whether to (a) delete all or (b) weak delete all but keep Portal:BBC. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, now it is a officially a WP:TRAINWRECK. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep BBC, Google, Nintendo, Sega and Sony as there is more than enough scope for a portal about all of these. Neutral about the rest as I haven't had time to review them. Thryduulf (talk) 00:27, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Portal:Google – Broad scope, plenty of content available (e.g. see Category:Google), some featured content, overall meets Portal/Guidelines to qualify for a standalone portal. North America1000 03:58, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Portal:Nintendo – Broad topic, plenty of content (see Category:Nintendo for examples), plenty of Recognized content (see below). The topic meets Portal/Guidelines.

 Featured articles

• 1080° Snowboarding

• Alleyway (video game)

• Blast Corps

• Children of Mana

• Donkey Kong 64

• Donkey Kong (video game)

• F-Zero GX

• Golden Sun

• Satoru Iwata

• Killer Instinct Gold

• Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories

• The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening

• The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

• The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages

• Mario Power Tennis

• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games

• Metroid Prime 2: Echoes

• Metroid Prime 3: Corruption

• Metroid Prime

• Mischief Makers

• MissingNo.

• New Super Mario Bros.

• Nintendo DSi

• Perfect Dark

• Pokémon Channel

• Star Wars: Rogue Squadron

• Super Mario 64

• Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels

• Super Mario Galaxy

• Super Mario World

• Super Smash Bros. Brawl

• Super Smash Bros. Melee

• Turok: Dinosaur Hunter

• Wii Sports

• Wii  Former featured articles

• Bulbasaur

• Goomba

• Lakitu

• The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

• Link (The Legend of Zelda)

• Nintendo Entertainment System

• Super Nintendo Entertainment System

• Torchic

• Wario

 Featured lists

• List of DS:Style products

• List of F-Zero media

• List of Kirby media

• List of Donkey Kong video games

• List of Metroid media

• List of Nintendo 64 games

• List of Pokémon

• List of The Legend of Zelda media

• List of Wario video games

 Former featured lists

• List of Virtual Boy games

 Good articles

• AM2R

• Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam

• Advance Wars: Days of Ruin

• Advance Wars: Dual Strike

• Banjo-Kazooie

• Banjo-Tooie

• Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day!

• Charizard

• Chibi-Robo!

• Cobra Triangle

• Development of Mother 3

• Diddy Kong Racing

• Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest

• Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!

• Donkey Kong Country

• Donkey Kong Country Returns

• Donkey Kong Jr. Math

• Dr. Mario

• EarthBound fandom

• EarthBound

• F-Zero (video game)

• F-Zero X

• Fatal Frame: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse

• Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water

• Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles

• Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

• Fire Emblem Awakening

• Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia

• Fire Emblem Fates

• Fire Emblem

• Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade

• Fire Emblem Gaiden

• Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War

• Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem

• Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem

• Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn

• Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon

• Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light

• Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones

• Fire Emblem: Thracia 776

• Fire Emblem (video game)

• GameCube online functionality

• Glass Joe

• Golden Sun: Dark Dawn

• Golden Sun: The Lost Age

• Golden Sun (series)

• GoldenEye 007 (1997 video game)

• The Guardian Legend

• Seventh generation of video game consoles

• Hotel Mario

• Joust (video game)

• Kid Icarus

• Kid Icarus: Uprising

• Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance

• Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days

• Kingdom Hearts Coded

• Kirby's Adventure

• Kirby's Block Ball

• Kirby's Dream Land

• The Last Story

• The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds

• The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

• The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

• CD-i games from The Legend of Zelda series

• The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures

• The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

• The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

• The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap

• The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

• The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

• The Legend of Zelda (video game)

• Marcus Lindblom

• The Little Mermaid II: Pinball Frenzy

• Luigi's Mansion

• Mario Bros.

• Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour

• Mario Kart: Double Dash

• Mario Kart DS

• Mario Party 4

• Mario Party 5

• Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time

• Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga

• Mario's Picross

• Mega Man 6

• Meta Knight

• Meteos

• Metroid II: Return of Samus

• Metroid Dread

• Metroid Fusion

• Metroid

• Metroid: Other M

• Metroid Prime Hunters

• Metroid Prime Pinball

• Metroid Prime: Trilogy

• Metroid: Zero Mission

• Metroid (video game)

• Mew (Pokémon)

• Mewtwo

• Yasunori Mitsuda

• Monolith Soft

• Mother 3

• Mother 3 fan translation

• Mother (video game)

• Mother (video game series)

• New Super Mario Bros. Wii

• Operation Rainfall

• PETA satirical browser games

• Paper Mario

• Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

• Perfect Dark (Game Boy Color)

• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

• Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney − Trials and Tribulations

• Pikachu

• Pilotwings 64

• Pilotwings

• Pokémon Black and White

• Pokémon Colosseum

• Pokémon Diamond and Pearl

• Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen

• Pokémon Gold and Silver

• Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver

• Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire

• Pokémon Red and Blue

• Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire

• Pokémon X and Y

• Project M (video game)

• R.C. Pro-Am

• Red Alarm

• Samus Aran

• Sin and Punishment

• Sky Skipper

• Slalom (video game)

• Snake Rattle 'n' Roll

• Soma Bringer

• Somari

• Sonic Lost World

• Star Fox Adventures

• Star Fox Command

• Super Mario 3D Land

• Super Mario 64 DS

• Super Mario Bros. 3

• Super Mario Bros.

• Super Mario Galaxy 2

• Super Mario Kart

• Super Mario Land

• Super Mario RPG

• Super Mario Strikers

• Super Mario Sunshine

• Super Metroid

• Super Punch-Out!!

• Super Smash Bros.

• Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U

• Super Smash Bros. (video game)

• Sword of Mana

• Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE

• Turok 2: Seeds of Evil

• Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Nintendo Co., Ltd.

• Wario

• Wario World

• WarioWare: Smooth Moves

• WarioWare: Touched!

• Wave Race 64

• Wii Play

• Xenoblade Chronicles (video game)

• Yoshi's Island DS

• Yoshi's Island

• Yoshi's Safari

• Zelda II: The Adventure of Link  Former good articles

• Bowsette

• Captain Falcon

• Crystalis

• Duck Hunt

• Game Boy Micro

• Geist (video game)

• Goemon's Great Adventure

• Kirby (character)

• The Legend of Zelda

• Mario Kart 64

• Mario

• Shigeru Miyamoto

• Nintendo DS

• Nintendo

• Princess Peach

• Pokémon

• Yoshio Sakamoto

• Star Fox 2

• Star Fox 64

• Star Fox: Assault

• Super Princess Peach

• Video game crash of 1983

• Yoshi Touch & Go

 Good article nominees • Bowsette

 Did you know? articles • List of Pokémon (252–319) (2004-04-07)

• Torchic (2004-04-07)

• F-Zero (2005-04-12)

• Universal City Studios, Inc. v. Nintendo Co., Ltd. (2006-02-17)

• Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (2007-10-27)

• Nintendo DSi (2008-10-09)

• Super Mario Kart (2009-01-03)

• Super Mario Bros. theme (2009-02-20)

• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (2009-02-22)

• Metroid: Other M (2009-06-06)

• Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again! (2009-06-09)

• Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2009-06-10)

• MissingNo. (2009-06-14)

• New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009-06-16)

• Jynx (2009-07-19)

• Wii Zapper (2009-09-14)

• Classic Controller (2009-09-16)

• Travis Touchdown (2009-09-29)

• Bayonetta (2009-10-31)

• Junichi Masuda (2010-06-13)

• King Hippo (2010-08-09)

• Glass Joe (2010-08-17)

• List of Yoshi video games (2011-02-20)

• Love Tester (2011-02-25)

• Laser Clay Shooting System (2011-04-17)

• Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (2011-05-03)

• Operation Rainfall (2011-07-05)

• Slalom (video game) (2011-08-10)

• Off-TV Play (2012-12-18)

• Rotozoa (2012-12-26)

• The Legend of Zelda: Hyrule Historia (2013-07-10)

• Wii Sports Club (2013-10-25)

• Max: The Curse of Brotherhood (2014-01-15)

• Twitch Plays Pokémon (2014-02-23)

• PETA satirical browser games (2014-05-16)

• Mischief Makers (2014-06-02)

• EarthBound (2014-09-04)

• EarthBound fandom (2014-09-04)

• Marcus Lindblom (2014-09-04)

• Mother 3 fan translation (2014-09-04)

• Development of Mother 3 (2014-10-04)

• Mother 3 (2014-10-16)

• Mother (video game) (2014-11-20)

• Mother (video game series) (2015-01-27)

• Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (2015-04-21)

• Banjo-Tooie (2015-04-29)

• Super Mario Land (2015-04-29)

• Yoshi's Island (2015-05-10)

• Donkey Kong Country (2015-05-11)

• Killer Instinct Gold (2015-09-21)

• Kirby's Block Ball (2015-10-07)

• Cobra Triangle (2015-10-09)

• Pokémon Sun and Moon (2016-03-18)

• Pokémon Go (2016-07-18)

• Somari (2017-09-23)

• Super Mario World (2017-11-13)

• 1993 congressional hearings on video games (2018-12-19)

Main page featured articles • Super Mario 64 (2005-01-31)

• Nintendo Entertainment System (2005-04-01)

• Link (The Legend of Zelda) (2005-06-19)

• Wario (2005-10-11)

• Perfect Dark (2006-05-12)

• Bulbasaur (2006-07-28)

• The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (2006-10-01)

• Torchic (2006-12-23)

• Wii (2007-04-18)

• Super Nintendo Entertainment System (2007-08-02)

• Donkey Kong (video game) (2007-10-15)

• Super Smash Bros. Melee (2008-05-14)

• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (2008-11-21)

• Alleyway (video game) (2009-04-21)

• New Super Mario Bros. (2009-05-16)

• Super Smash Bros. Brawl (2009-10-13)

• Wii Sports (2010-02-04)

• Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (2010-05-14)

• Golden Sun (2010-11-10)

• MissingNo. (2011-09-14)

• The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2011-11-26)

• Turok: Dinosaur Hunter (2012-04-13)

• Metroid Prime (2012-11-17)

• The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (2013-06-06)

• F-Zero GX (2013-07-25)

• Mario Power Tennis (2013-12-23)

• Nintendo DSi (2014-04-05)

• Pokémon Channel (2014-06-30)

• Metroid Prime 2: Echoes (2014-11-15)

• Children of Mana (2015-11-26)

• Satoru Iwata (2016-07-11)

• Mischief Makers (2016-07-22)

• Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (2016-08-27)

• Killer Instinct Gold (2016-11-25)

• Super Mario Galaxy (2017-11-01)

• Blast Corps (2017-12-22)

• Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (2019-01-22)

Main page featured lists

• List of Donkey Kong video games (2011-08-15)

• List of Nintendo 64 games (2011-11-07)

• List of DS:Style products (2017-06-12)

• List of Pokémon (2017-10-09)

• List of F-Zero media (2018-10-19)

In the News articles • Hiroshi Yamauchi (2013-09-19)

• Satoru Iwata (2015-07-12)


 * – North America1000 |undefined 04:11, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Procedural keep. The nominator's decision to chuck in two bands in with a set of companies if very odd, and doesn't reach help a clear decision.  There seems   to be a strong case for considering the BBC separately to commercial companies.  Yes, this is a trainwreck. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 04:29, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep with no prejudice to renomination with better bundling. While two have been withdrawn, I think there's still scope for a decent argument based on WP:POG for Google and Nintendo.    SITH   (talk)   12:24, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * About procedure - The point to discuss here is not "how many Great Articles belong to such or such topic". Nintendo has 224 of them. Small player. BBC has 31+16+157 of them. Small player. Be More Modest and look at Dungeons & Dragons. And don't even argue: this is not the point. What is to discussed is (1) are these portals policy compliant ; (2) are these portals useful as navigation tools (guideline) ? At Dungeons & Dragons, the portal receives 12 views per day. One third of the worse score of any stub article that belongs to this project. Is someone pretending that BBC or Nintendo behaves otherwise ? At [|Portal:Nintendo|Portal:Google|BBC|Nintendo|Google wmflabs] you can check that absolutely no reader cares about these portals (better use the logarithmic scale! ). No writer cares either, as can be seen when looking at how old are the snippets. User TTH was editorially right when nuking all these cadavers, but wrong when replacing them by automated shit generators. And there we are: while intended to provide a navigation tool, these portals don't. Splitting this discussion into individual ones will only result in expanding the duration of the missa pro defunctis, but will not resurrect any of these portals. On the other hand, separating "In Memoriam BBC 2008, When We Were Younger" from "In Memoriam Nintendo, When We Were Younger" could perhaps give some peace of mind to those who require it to let the past slip out of their hands. Pldx1 (talk) 12:58, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It may be worth noting that, unlike wp:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Sims (2nd nomination), I did not revert to the pre-automated state. No one has even bothered to do this for Portal:Nintendo yet. The maintainers didn't even notice the change it seems... :( &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 00:02, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - This is still a train wreck, but User:Northamerica1000 managed to wreck the train on the MFD main line by inserting the name of WikiProject:Nintendo, punctuated to be magic words. This managed to confuse the numbering of sections on the MFD main line.  I had to turn off the magic words.  This was a good-faith error, but a real error.  Please do not put anything in an MFD that will cause large-scale transclusion.  Robert McClenon (talk) 22:31, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I have since modified my !vote. North America1000 22:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep BBC on the basis stated above--it does look like it need re-vitalising, so it should be kept and revialized. Also Keep Google, Sony, and Nintendo on the basis of the same arguemtn as Appple. These are more than  miscellaneous random companies.  DGG ( talk ) 09:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dear User:DGG. When you are saying Portal:BBC should be revitalized, are you saying that you will do the job, or are you only saying that someone else should do the job, but not you, who have more important things to do than updating a portal without readers? Pldx1 (talk) 22:21, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I cannot work on everything, so I concentrate on articles and drafts. Even so, at my level of activity, I can fix only a few of the thousands I spot that need fixing. I have never actually worked on a portal, or done anything substantial about categories or other navigational devices. Nor do I work with wikidata, or images. Nor do I try to fix things at CCI or SPA or LTA, though I will sometimes help there if checkuser is needed. None of this means I shouldn't give opinions on what needs to be done. We all rely on each other.   DGG ( talk ) 02:33, 1 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all None of these companies meet the breadth-of-subject-area requirement of the WP:POG guideline. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:57, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep BBC and Google - each of these has a significant number of related articles so a good candidate for a portal. Might need some work due to the method of creation, but that's not a valid reason for deletion. I've no comment on the other portals listed; my preference is "Keep" but the scope for some of them might not warrant a portal of their own. WaggersTALK  11:09, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, User:Waggers should work harder. Using his usual stereotypical sentence Might need some work due to the method of creation, as if Portal:BBC and Portal:Google were automated portals, and as if that was used as a rationale to delete says much. These two portals are old abandoned things from the past, created by the good old methods of this so glorious past of 2008. They were not nuked by TTH and quite nothing has ever changed to these sets of outdated snippets. I have already given shameful samples of expiry. Even 2013 is too recent there. It remains might need some work. This work will never been done, too bad for readers sufficiently naive to open a Wikipedia portal. In any case, there are so few of them. Pldx1 (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a work in progress and there is no deadline. There are plenty of articles that haven't been edited in a long time; we don't delete them just because they're "abandoned", especially when editing can bring them up to speed, as it can in these cases. <b style="color:#98F">W</b><b style="color:#97E">a</b><b style="color:#86D">g</b><b style="color:#75C">ge</b><b style="color:#83C">r</b><b  style="color:#728">s</b><small  style="color:#080">TALK  14:34, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Granted I haven't been following much of what has been happening with Portals but this MfD seems like a trainwreck. I'm not sure why there are three portals that are not companies here since this is supposed to be "the remaining company portals". Last time I checked Slipknot was a band not a company. I'm breaking my votes up based on the portals listed here as I do not feel all should be deleted.
 * Strong Keep for BBC, Google, Nintendo, Sega and Sony -- I agree with the keep reasons above for BBC, Google and Nintendo. I also included Sega and Sony with this group as I feel they satisfy WP:POG.
 * Neutral for Motörhead, Linkin Park and Slipknot -- These should have been listed in their own MfD with a clear reasoning specific to them as they are not companies.
 * Delete for Lenovo, SNK and Oracle Corporation -- These three company portals I feel is more limited in scope than the others I mentioned in my Keep vote and may not meet WP:POG.   Alucard 16  ❯❯❯ chat?    11:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Analysis of Companies
 * It was not helpful to combine 10 companies with 3 bands. However, this table shows the average daily pageviews between 1 January 2019 and 28 February 2019.  These are old-style manual portals except for Lenovo and Oracle.  Lenovo appears to be a single-navbox portal, created by a member of the portal platoon.  Pageview metrics are not available for Oracle due to a name change and analyst limitations.


 * {| class="wikitable sortable"

! Title !! Portal Page Views !! Article Page Views !! Ratio !! Notes !! Percent
 * BBC || 29 || 6,679 || 230.3 || || 0.43%
 * Google || 56 || 21,052 || 375.9 || || 0.27%
 * Apple Inc. || 40 || 12,099 || 302.5 || || 0.33%
 * Microsoft || 73 || 7,149 || 97.9 || || 1.02%
 * Sony || 11 || 3,466 || 315.1 || Originator inactive since 2008. || 0.32%
 * Lenovo || 3 || 2,336 || 778.7 || Single navbox portal, developed Dec 2018. || 0.13%
 * SNK || 8 || 342 || 42.8 || Originator inactive since Oct 2018 || 2.34%
 * Oracle || ||  ||  || Metrics unavailable. ||
 * Sega || 12 || 1,852 || 154.3 || Originator inactive since 2012. || 0.65%
 * Nintendo || 42 || 4,454 || 106.0 || Originator inactive since 2010. || 0.94%
 * }
 * Sony || 11 || 3,466 || 315.1 || Originator inactive since 2008. || 0.32%
 * Lenovo || 3 || 2,336 || 778.7 || Single navbox portal, developed Dec 2018. || 0.13%
 * SNK || 8 || 342 || 42.8 || Originator inactive since Oct 2018 || 2.34%
 * Oracle || ||  ||  || Metrics unavailable. ||
 * Sega || 12 || 1,852 || 154.3 || Originator inactive since 2012. || 0.65%
 * Nintendo || 42 || 4,454 || 106.0 || Originator inactive since 2010. || 0.94%
 * }
 * Sega || 12 || 1,852 || 154.3 || Originator inactive since 2012. || 0.65%
 * Nintendo || 42 || 4,454 || 106.0 || Originator inactive since 2010. || 0.94%
 * }
 * Nintendo || 42 || 4,454 || 106.0 || Originator inactive since 2010. || 0.94%
 * }


 * None of the companies have more than 100 daily pageviews. None of the companies have more than 3% as many pageviews for the portal as for the article.


 * Analysis of Music


 * The following table shows the average daily pageviews between 1 January 2019 and 28 February 2019 for all music portals that have been considered so far. I am not making any claim that this table lists all bands, or all bands that have portals.  If  your favorite band isn't shown, either it doesn't have a portal, or its portal hasn't been debated yet (or sneaked past me).


 * {| class="wikitable sortable"

! Title !! Portal Page Views !! Article Page Views !! Ratio !! Notes !! Percent
 * Eminem || 13 || 19,275 || 1482.7 || || 0.07%
 * Rihanna || 16 || 14,713 || 919.6 || || 0.11%
 * Taylor Swift || 9 || 17,722 || 1969.1 || || 0.05%
 * The Clash || 7 || 2,407 || 343.9 || || 0.29%
 * Adele || 14 || 7,403 || 528.8 || Second nomination || 0.19%
 * Justin Bieber || 18 || 18,943 || 1052.4 || Did something happen on 8 Feb? Accesses peak then. || 0.10%
 * Rush || 9 || 3,334 || 370.4 || || 0.27%
 * Neil Young || 8 || 5,806 || 725.8 || || 0.14%
 * Pink Floyd || 13 || 8,655 || 665.8 || || 0.15%
 * The Rolling Stones || 9 || 7,314 || 812.7 || || 0.12%
 * Led Zeppelin || 14 || 8,103 || 578.8 || || 0.17%
 * Michael Jackson || 24 || 28,527 || 1188.6 || || 0.08%
 * Jackson Family || 85 || 3,956 || 46.5 || || 2.15%
 * Janet Jackson || 7 || 5,926 || 846.6 || || 0.12%
 * Shania Twain || 12 || 4,927 || 410.6 || Median 8. Portal access has weird peak 6 Jan. || 0.24%
 * Frank Zappa || 8 || 4,201 || 525.1 || || 0.19%
 * Aerosmith || 10 || 3,224 || 322.4 || || 0.31%
 * Avril Lavigne || 9 || 10,197 || 1133.0 || Peak on 15 Feb in article access. || 0.09%
 * Queen (band) || 50 || 59,785 || 1195.7 || Article and portal accesses peak on 25 Feb. || 0.08%
 * Bob Dylan || 15 || 9,373 || 624.9 || || 0.16%
 * The Supremes || 7 || 2,437 || 348.1 || || 0.29%
 * The Beatles || 15 || 14,088 || 939.2 || || 0.11%
 * U2 || 9 || 3,993 || 443.7 || || 0.23%
 * Grateful Dead || 23 || 2,898 || 126.0 || || 0.79%
 * Iron Maiden || 11 || 3,877 || 352.5 || || 0.28%
 * The Kinks || 8 || 1,987 || 248.4 || || 0.40%
 * Elvis Presley || 12 || 24,375 || 2031.3 || || 0.05%
 * Miles Davis || 7 || 3,603 || 514.7 || || 0.19%
 * Whitney Houston || 7 || 12,726 || 1818.0 || || 0.06%
 * AC/DC || 10 || 7,542 || 754.2 || || 0.13%
 * Motörhead || 8 || 2,182 || 272.8 || || 0.37%
 * Linkin Park || 8 || 5,300 || 662.5 || Originator made 4 edits in 2008 including setting up portal. || 0.15%
 * Slipknot || 8 || 4,324 || 540.5 || Originator inactive since 2016 || 0.19%
 * }
 * Aerosmith || 10 || 3,224 || 322.4 || || 0.31%
 * Avril Lavigne || 9 || 10,197 || 1133.0 || Peak on 15 Feb in article access. || 0.09%
 * Queen (band) || 50 || 59,785 || 1195.7 || Article and portal accesses peak on 25 Feb. || 0.08%
 * Bob Dylan || 15 || 9,373 || 624.9 || || 0.16%
 * The Supremes || 7 || 2,437 || 348.1 || || 0.29%
 * The Beatles || 15 || 14,088 || 939.2 || || 0.11%
 * U2 || 9 || 3,993 || 443.7 || || 0.23%
 * Grateful Dead || 23 || 2,898 || 126.0 || || 0.79%
 * Iron Maiden || 11 || 3,877 || 352.5 || || 0.28%
 * The Kinks || 8 || 1,987 || 248.4 || || 0.40%
 * Elvis Presley || 12 || 24,375 || 2031.3 || || 0.05%
 * Miles Davis || 7 || 3,603 || 514.7 || || 0.19%
 * Whitney Houston || 7 || 12,726 || 1818.0 || || 0.06%
 * AC/DC || 10 || 7,542 || 754.2 || || 0.13%
 * Motörhead || 8 || 2,182 || 272.8 || || 0.37%
 * Linkin Park || 8 || 5,300 || 662.5 || Originator made 4 edits in 2008 including setting up portal. || 0.15%
 * Slipknot || 8 || 4,324 || 540.5 || Originator inactive since 2016 || 0.19%
 * }
 * The Kinks || 8 || 1,987 || 248.4 || || 0.40%
 * Elvis Presley || 12 || 24,375 || 2031.3 || || 0.05%
 * Miles Davis || 7 || 3,603 || 514.7 || || 0.19%
 * Whitney Houston || 7 || 12,726 || 1818.0 || || 0.06%
 * AC/DC || 10 || 7,542 || 754.2 || || 0.13%
 * Motörhead || 8 || 2,182 || 272.8 || || 0.37%
 * Linkin Park || 8 || 5,300 || 662.5 || Originator made 4 edits in 2008 including setting up portal. || 0.15%
 * Slipknot || 8 || 4,324 || 540.5 || Originator inactive since 2016 || 0.19%
 * }
 * AC/DC || 10 || 7,542 || 754.2 || || 0.13%
 * Motörhead || 8 || 2,182 || 272.8 || || 0.37%
 * Linkin Park || 8 || 5,300 || 662.5 || Originator made 4 edits in 2008 including setting up portal. || 0.15%
 * Slipknot || 8 || 4,324 || 540.5 || Originator inactive since 2016 || 0.19%
 * }
 * Slipknot || 8 || 4,324 || 540.5 || Originator inactive since 2016 || 0.19%
 * }
 * }


 * The three bands that are listed last in the table are included in this nomination. They each have only 8 daily pageviews.


 * Delete the three band portals, Portal: Motörhead, Portal: Linkin Park , Portal: Slipknot , each of which have too few views (8 daily) to justify a portal.
 * Delete Portal:Lenovo, Portal:SNK, Portal:Sega, Portal:Sony, none of which have 20 daily pageviews.
 * Question – Do Portal:Microsoft, Portal:Apple, Portal:BBC, Portal:Google, Portal:Oracle Corporation have maintainers?
 * Robert McClenon (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete [Portal:BBC, which is not being maintained. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:26, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete all including Google, Microsoft, and Apple. It is a bad idea to have portals for individual companies, as these portals rather look like advertisement boards. Except probably BBC since that is not precisely a privately held company. SD0001 (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Portal:BBC. That the portal can say "The MediaCityUK development ... will become the home of the BBC in Manchester from 2011" indicates that the portal is not being maintained adequately - we shouldn't be luring readers to such pages and thus we shouldn't waste editor time on them. DexDor(talk) 16:38, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <b style="color:red">Please do not modify it.</b> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.